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Those Pesky Believers

From: Stuart Miller <stuart.miller4.nul>
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:23:15 +0100 (BST)
Fwd Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:13:28 -0400
Subject: Those Pesky Believers


Surely Michael Malin is mistaken. The object he has spotted is
obviously a natural geological formation on the planet (see
picture with article).

I don't understand how supposedly reasoned scientists can come
up with these wild and extreme claims for seeing man made
objects on Mars when perfectly rational lay people like George
Filer, who might be expected to rant and rave, are the absolute
picture of rationality and logic.

The white patch referred to on the photograph which it is
claimed could be the parachute is clearly no such thing and is a
preposterous contention. Even the untrained layman's eye can see
that it is simply a gaggle of Martian school children on their
way to school.

And no doubt Malin is claiming this thing flew there from Earth!
Perhaps if Mr. Filer was to reschedule a fly past with his
"Truth Teller" satellite and re-photograph this object from
another angle, this stupid pipe dream of Malin's will be put to
rest at last.

I now await the brickbats from the "believers" who constantly
soil this area of science with their ridiculous claims about
methane and other alleged anomalies on the planet when they can
obviously see the natives enjoying the benefits of their oxygen
based atmosphere, just like us on Earth. Their attempts to show
that somehow Mars is "different" are nothing short of

Stuart Miller


Source: CNN


Friday, May 6, 2005

Mars Lander Wreckage Found

Nearly six years after NASA's Mars Polar Lander vanished during
a landing attempt on the Red Planet, a scientist said he has
spotted what appears to be wreckage of the spacecraft.

The observation came during a re-examination of grainy, black-
and-white images taken by the orbiting Mars Global Surveyor,
which searched for the probe with no success in 1999 and 2000.

"The observation of a single, small dot at the center of the
disturbed location suggests that the vehicle remained more or
less intact after its fall," wrote Michael Malin, president and
chief scientist of San Diego-based Malin Space Science Systems,
which operates the camera aboard Global Surveyor.

Malin makes his case in the July issue of Sky & Telescope
magazine. A copy of his article was posted Thursday on the
magazine's Web site.

Global Surveyor will take higher resolution images later this
year in an attempt to confirm the missing lander's location.

"It looks intriguing," said Michael Meyer, the lead scientist
for NASA's Mars Program. He said the images show just one
possible location of the missing Polar Lander and more images
are needed.

The $165 million Polar Lander was headed for touchdown near
Mars' south pole on Dec. 3, 1999, when contact was lost. A NASA
team concluded a rocket engine shut off prematurely, causing the
spacecraft to plummet about 130 feet to almost certain

A re-examination of images of the surface of Mars taken after
the Polar Lander's disappearance show a distinct white patch
that could be a parachute. A few hundred meters away, scientists
noted a dark area, possibly made from rocket blast marks, with a
tiny white dot in the center that could be the lander.

The images pinpointing Polar Lander's possible location jibes
with NASA's theory of the spacecraft's demise, Malin said.

Scientists at his firm decided to review the old Polar Lander
images after last year's successful landings of the twin Mars
rovers, Spirit and Opportunity. The rovers used a combination of
rockets, parachutes and air bags to cushion their landing.

The Polar Lander used a similar system during its unsuccessful

Its disappearance was a blow to NASA, which had lost the
lander's $125 million sibling spacecraft, the Mars Climate
Orbiter, three months earlier. That spacecraft apparently burned
up as it was about to enter orbit.

The lander and orbiter were designed to study and analyze Mars'
atmosphere and search for signs of frozen water beneath its
south pole.

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