From: Will Bueche <willbueche.nul> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Fwd Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:15:41 -0400 Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien - Bueche >From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul> >To: <ufoupdates.nul> >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:43:47 +0100 >Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear >>From: Rich Reynolds <rrrgroup.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:00:44 -0500 >>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear >>>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul> >>>To: <ufoupdates.nul> >>>Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:44:40 +0100 >>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear >>Something has happened to credible and decent, intelligent >>people. We should try to find out what it was..... >Rich, >Sorry but neither I nor anyone else is obliged to believe >anyone's unsupported testimony on anything. Claims actually >have to be demonstrated. <snip> And just as it isn't Peter's responsibility to believe anything, it isn't my responsibility as an experiencer to demonstrate or prove anything to anyone. That doesn't mean one should keep silent when they've had an experience. Reports of strange experiences may well stimulate researchers to explore different ideas about the world. To achieve that end, there is perhaps a bit of societal obligation for members of society to report to others in the society what they've experienced. That obligation isn't writ in stone or anything, but generally speaking that is how cultures advance - through some level of sharing of info. (You see a bear in the woods, you tell the other villagers). Discussion should be encouraged, so society can take advantage of the information. I mention this only because sometimes people have an impression that the experiencers themselves should be the ones to prove their case, since they're the ones who are "making claims." And what a term that is, by the way - "Making Claims" sounds like something unwelcome, doesn't it? Like "making laundry duty." Far from it. "Making claims" is part of our societal obligations. Once that's done, it is up to the rest of society as to how to engage it. In general our society has failed to do with reports of alien contact what it could. That may be sad. I feel it may have set our culture back in ways we cannot even imagine, but I have to be a realist: it isn't my responsibility to prove the existence of alternate dimensions or anything else that would likely offer proof of the aliens - because those aren't my fields. Simply put, it would be outrageous to think that everyday laymen would suddenly also have such a responsibility of "proof" on their shoulders for the sheer chance that they happened to have some experiences. Rich says "We should try to find out what it was", and indeed that is where the person's obligation to present their experience ends and the rest of the culture's responsibility begins. I wouldn't ask a person (such as Peter or anyone for that matter) to believe anything in advance. But neither should those with talents fail to consider their part of the societal obligation.
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