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Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien - Bueche

From: Will Bueche <willbueche.nul>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:12:02 -0700 (PDT)
Fwd Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:15:41 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien - Bueche

>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:43:47 +0100
>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>From: Rich Reynolds <rrrgroup.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:00:44 -0500
>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:44:40 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>Something has happened to credible and decent, intelligent
>>people. We should try to find out what it was.....


>Sorry but neither I nor anyone else is obliged to believe
>anyone's unsupported testimony on anything. Claims actually
>have to be demonstrated.


And just as it isn't Peter's responsibility to believe anything,
it isn't my responsibility as an experiencer to demonstrate or
prove anything to anyone.

That doesn't mean one should keep silent when they've had an
experience. Reports of strange experiences may well stimulate
researchers to explore different ideas about the world. To
achieve that end, there is perhaps a bit of societal obligation
for members of society to report to others in the society what
they've experienced. That obligation isn't writ in stone or
anything, but generally speaking that is how cultures advance -
 through some level of sharing of info. (You see a bear in the
woods, you tell the other villagers). Discussion should be
encouraged, so society can take advantage of the information.

I mention this only because sometimes people have an impression
that the experiencers themselves should be the ones to prove
their case, since they're the ones who are "making claims."

And what a term that is, by the way - "Making Claims" sounds
like something unwelcome, doesn't it? Like "making laundry
duty." Far from it.

"Making claims" is part of our societal obligations. Once that's
done, it is up to the rest of society as to how to engage it. In
general our society has failed to do with reports of alien
contact what it could.

That may be sad. I feel it may have set our culture back in ways
we cannot even imagine, but I have to be a realist: it isn't my
responsibility to prove the existence of alternate dimensions or
anything else that would likely offer proof of the aliens -
 because those aren't my fields. Simply put, it would be
outrageous to think that everyday laymen would suddenly also
have such a responsibility of "proof" on their shoulders for the
sheer chance that they happened to have some experiences.

Rich says "We should try to find out what it was", and indeed
that is where the person's obligation to present their
experience ends and the rest of the culture's responsibility

I wouldn't ask a person (such as Peter or anyone for that
matter) to believe anything in advance. But neither should those
with talents fail to consider their part of the societal

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