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Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

From: Isaac Koi <isaackoi2.nul>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:04:27 +0100
Fwd Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:34:21 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction


>From: Gildas Bourdais <gbourdais.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:18:36 +0200
>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction
>Fear

>>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:44:40 +0100
>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction
>>Fear

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:28:42 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction
>>>Fear

<snip>

>Now, I wish to come back to the possible influence of SF and
>UFO stories.

>It has been often argued that SF films and TV series could
>have influenced Betty and Barney Hill. This argument has been
>developped at some length by Kevin Randle, Estes and Cone, in
>their book of 1999, The Abduction Enigma.

>They cited several films, of which I found the dates. I also
>found some posters giving an idea of their tone, in a nice SF
>picture book called Who Goes There? 1950's Horror & Sci-Fi
>Movie posters and Lobby cards (Bruce Hershenson, June 2001).
>The films, cited by Randle et al, released before 1961, are
>(pp. 122, 123):

>1953: Invaders From Mars
>1954: Killers From Space 1955: This Island Earth
>1956: Not Of This Earth
>1956: Earth Versus Flying Saucers
>1956: It Conquered The World
>1957: Invasion Of The Saucer Men

>Well, the posters of all these films show the aliens as
>dreadful
>monsters or grotesque figures, which could hardly have
>inspired the the Hills to invent their story !

>On the other hand, they do not mention the film quoted by
>Peter Rogerson on April 30: Village of the Damned (1960),
>based on the Wyndham's novel, The Midwich Cuckoos,
>of 1957. In effect, that film tells an entirely different
>story. At no time do we see a UFO and alien abductors.
>The only aliens are the nice looking, blond hair children
>(hybrid? we don't know) born after
>the mysterious event. Nothing to do with the Hill story.

>Other films are cited by Randle et al, about possible
>influence on Betty and Barney Hill, but they come
>out after 1961:

>1965: The Night Caller 1966: Mars Needs Women

>The TV series, The Invaders, with David Vincent, started in
>January 1967, after the release of the Fuller book. Since
>they come after the Hill story, so let's forget them here.

>To be honest, there is a more troubling case, mentioned by
>Randle et al (p. 127), who quote a Martin Kottmeyer article
>in Magonia: an episode of the TV series, The Outer Limits,
>The Bellero Shield, first broadcast on February 10, 1964,
>just two weeks before Barney Hill remembered
>wrap-around eyes in a regression session with Dr Simon.


Hi Gildas,

Since this topic has been lingering for a couple of weeks, I
thought it might be worth my chipping in to add a few references
for anyone interested in looking into any of these aspects in
more detail.

First off, as you may know, the Martin Kottmeyer article you
mention is available on the Magonia website at the link below:

http://www.magonia.demon.co.uk/arc/90/entirelymk.html

Secondly, I've quickly cut and pasted into a Microsoft Word
document at the link below a few relevant entries from an
incomplete draft of the Chronology I've been working on.

http://tinyurl.com/9rskk

The relevant document is a relatively short extract consisting
of about 4 pages of entries (relating to the Hills, Villas-Boas,
some of the movies mentioned above, Dick's novel "Valis"
mentioned earlier in this discussion, and one or two other
entries I've cut and pasted on the basis of an extremely quick
selecton) plus the relevant footnotes. Since I only added some
of the relevant entries relatively recently, the footnotes for
some of the entries are not as comprehensive as I'd like - but
you may nonetheless find them of some use.

Since Microsoft Word is such a memory hog, I've zipped the
relevant file. If you haven't already got software to unzip
files, you can download WinZip from: http://www.winzip.com


All the best,

Isaac Koi




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