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Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide -

From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:29:55 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)
Fwd Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:48:48 -0400
Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide -

>From: Martin Shough <mshough.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:44:11 +0100
>Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide

>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:21:20 EDT
>>Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide

>>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:27:40 +0100
>>>Subject: British National Archives UFO Research Guide



>>The history has some odd discrepancies. It describes a major
>>media campaign in October 1950 that supposedly gave prominence
>>to flying saucers in the UK for the first time. The campaign was
>>said to be based on major newspapers serializing the Heard,
>>Scully and Keyhoe books. The history next relates:

>>"The media campaign of 1950 led some very senior establishment
>>figures to ask questions and others began to press the
>>Government for action."

>>Examples were then given including Sir Henry Tizard who because
>>of this media campaign supposedly then requested the creation of
>>the Flying Saucer Working Party in the DSI/JTIC in August 1950.

>>But August 1950 is 2 months _before_ the big "media camapaign"
>>of October 1950. Clearly Tizard's Working Party had nothing to
>>do with any "media camapign." I thought the Working Party had
>>been set up because of disturbing RAF UFO sightings.

>Hi Brad

>You are correct. The dating of the media campaign to October
>1950 is at variance with what is stated in DSI/JTIC Report No 7,
>the final Working Party report of June 1951:


>Which of these - "October 1950" or "summer and autumn of 1950" -
>is the more accurate would have to be determined by research of
>UK press sources. However the Report does here imply that the
>Working Party was at least in part motivated by press publicity
>and civilian sightings.

Hi Martin and Brad!

The big media campaign in 1950 did bring out what was until then
top secret multinational investigations into flying saucers by
Britian, the U.S. and Canada. These investigations can be traced
back to 1947 and the ghost rockets of 1946 seen over much of
Europe (and possibly further back to the alleged UFO crashes and
recoveries of wreckage in Italy, Germany and other countries
prior to WWII).

Doing a Google search using "Tizard" and "DRB" (Canada's Defense
Research Board which had an involvement in the investigations of
flying saucers under its chairman, Dr. Omand M. Solandt) I found
a paper by J.L.C. Carrier which shows that in addition to
Britain and the U.S., Canada too was in the loop in regards to
UFO matters from 1947 onwards.

Below is a short snip from this paper.

"...they sent off Sir Henry Tizard on a mission to Ottawa and
Washington to explore the best methods of integrating military
research between the three countries. From that moment on, no
questions of patents rights or of security would interfere with
complete Canadian participation in the scientific war effort.
Mackenzie, Chairman of NRC, having obtained agreement that
Canada would be treated as a full partner, opened liaison
offices in London and Washington and UK and US scientific
liaison offices were established in Ottawa."

In a reply to me by Don Ledger on the CANUFO List, Don said he
has documents showing that orders were cut on May 9, 1950 to
send RCAF staff to Washington to be brought up to date on the
flying saucer question. See "UFO" Joe Daniel's web site below
under 'The Avent Trip To Washington For UFO Study' for a summary
of some of these documents.


In a related reply by Stan Friedman, he dug back in his files
and found the declassified 300 page DRB file which he used to
write 'The Canadian UFO Scene that he prepared for MUFON 1987.
This file (DRB file 3800-10-1-1) consisted of 3 volumes and
contained a large number of flying saucer reports dating back to
1947. For reasons that are still not clear at this time, Stan
was informed that two volumes of this important three volume DRB
file have since been destroyed and is no longer available to
researchers. Among the many interesting things Stan mentions in
his MUFON 1987 paper is that after U.S. Project Saucer was
completed about 1950 (see Jan Aldrich's web site for further
details), "...it was found desireable to solicit Canadian
reports. At the 220th meeting of the JIC (Joint Intelligence
Committee) on the 12 April, 1950, UFOs were discussed and the
following decisions were reached:

a. DSI (Directorate of Scientific Intelligence) and DAI
   (Directorate of Air Intelligence) were to collaborate in
   preparing a questionnaire to be distributed to field
   intelligence officers of the three services and the RCMP.

b. DAI is to coordinate the investigation methods in the field.

c. All field reports were to be passed to DSI for official
   examination on behalf of DND."

So as we can see, there was plenty of interest in UFOs at the
highest levels among the British, Americans and Canadians prior
to the big media campaign of 1950.

In his e-mail Don also talked about a fading Old Boys Network in
UK/US/Canadian intelligence that may still exist. If the reasons
flying saucers were top secret back in the 1950s are no longer
valid reasons for the 2000s, some of these Old Boys may be
willing to reminist about this subject and to share some very
interesting untold stories that would help us to better
understand UFOs. Maybe if we approached them and asked.....

Nick Balaskas

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