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Re: The Mexican UFO Fleets Footage - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:03:09 -0400
Fwd Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:07:41 -0400
Subject: Re: The Mexican UFO Fleets Footage - Velez

>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <gevaerd.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:48:07 -0300
>Subject: Re: The Mexican UFO Fleets Footage

>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:57:33 -0400
>>Subject: The Mexican UFO Fleets Footage

>>A couple of weeks ago I requested a copy of the Fleet Videos
>>from Jaime Maussan. As is his habit, he was very friendly and
>>responsive to my request and he provided me a copy of the videos
>>on digital videotape.

>>It is stunning, impressive footage. I will be posting clips from
>>this video to the Virtually Strange Network website shortly.
>>People need to see this footage for themselves, so that they can
>>make up their own minds about it. The people on this List who
>>have been identifying the objects recorded on video as balloons
>>need to have their eyes and/or their heads, examined.


>>Attempting to destroy the reputation and character of another
>>human being by calling them a liar and a hoaxer in public is a
>>very serious thing. Especially when done without having to
>>present any hard evidence for the allegation.

>>Amy Hebert and a few others do it way too easily. More, they do
>>it with a kind of relish and mean-spiritedness that is just
>>ugly, and revealing of their own black character and personal
>>agendas. Hebert's recent unjustified public attack on Robles Gil
>>is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.


>>If Mr. Gil is a liar as you say, then I'll assume you had
>>_incontrovertible_ hard evidence _before_ you called him a liar
>>in public? If so, share this thoroughly convincing evidence with
>>the rest of us, please.

>>It better be first person knowledge too as well as damning and
>>conclusive proof that he _intentionally_ faked the videos. I'm
>>curious to learn what it is that you consider ample
>>justification to attempt to destroy another person's reputation
>>in public like that.

>>I hope it's a real good one.

>>Then, if you will, I want you to tell me who made _you_ the
>>judge, jury and public executioner of Mr. Gils character.

>>Ante up, Ms. Hebert. Put up or shut up. Proof positive please.

Hola A.J.,

To All: Please excuse me, indulge me, for a moment as I wish to say
certain things in Spanish to my esteemed Latino colleagues.

A.J. wrote:

>I am was absolutely impressed and actually amazed when I saw the
>videos Jaime showed in Laughlin. So were everybody else at the

Claro que si! Of course you were impressed. Anyone with eyes
that can see would be impressed. I described it as 'stunning.'
Me tiro al piso! It floored me!

>This is why, since last March, I have been insisting
>on defending the extraordinary nature of the objects filmed in
>the flotillas, even when many people - here on this List and
>others - completely refuse to accept them _without_ even
>_looking_ at them. Without!

I'm sorry, I've been away A.J. I have been focusing my energy
and time on my family and work. Had I been here, I promise you
it would not have been such an uphill battle for you to get the
word out about what has been happening in Mexico.

I would have kept the flies out of your hair.

Yo no le tengo miedo a estos pinches 'amateur Internet
debunkers.' Yo me lo sacudo como si fueran moscas.

I'm here now. Leave me to play 'shortstop.' Not too many loose
balls will get past my position. Like I said, you just focus on
the job, get the word out. Make sure the most people get to see
it all.

I'll deal with the flies and low-balls. ;)

A.J. we've got the easy job. The videos speak for themselves. We
don't need no stinking interpreters to tell us what our eyes
see. After enough people have seen the videos for themselves
these dime-store Internet debunkers will gradually go silent.

I bought a book of matches to the party and I'm ready to start a

Como la cancion... 'la casa de Tula cojio candela, ella se fue a
dormir y no apago la vela....'   ;)

>I am very glad that, besides me, Santiago, another fellow and
>you have also seen the videos and can comment them here, to let
>our colleagues important they are.

I will my friend. Watch my smoke.

>You described the videos precisely in your e-mail.

I have eyes to see. It's easy.

>As for me, they are the most intriguing pieces of evidence that I
>have ever seen about or visitors. Balloons? Birds? Come on!

Que cojones! I don't know how anyone could say that knowing that
others will actually see the videos and realize how absurd the
suggestion is that those are balloons. Boggles my mind how they
can do that. They know they are going to get busted for making
up crap like that. Yet they do it anyway. Maybe because they
have articles they want to sell to skeptical magazines? I don't
know. What do you think? <LOL>

>But I understand the impact the videos can cause for someone is
>certainly a very hard and very few people impacted that way
>absorbs the hit.

True. I think the ones who protest the most are the most
threatened by the phenomenon. It is 'they' who will be leaping
out of windows if and when first contact happens. It will be
their own rigidity of thinking that will be their undoing. In
this Universe there is no such thing as "control."

Paz, mi hermano.

John Velez

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