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Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:05:44 EDT
Fwd Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:50:42 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

>From: Gildas Bourdais <gbourdais.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 18:23:39 +0200
>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>From: Isaac Koi <isaackoi2.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:04:27 +0100
>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>>From: Gildas Bourdais <gbourdais.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:18:36 +0200
>>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

>>>Now, I wish to come back to the possible influence of SF and
>>>UFO stories.


>>Since this topic has been lingering for a couple of weeks, I
>>thought it might be worth my chipping in to add a few references
>>for anyone interested in looking into any of these aspects in
>>more detail.

>>First off, as you may know, the Martin Kottmeyer article you
>>mention is available on the Magonia website at the link below:


>Thank you for the link. I have read the Kottmayer article with
>interest, and I would have many comments to say about it. But I
>am just going to come back on some of the SF films which would
>be a source of the UFO abduction "lore", according to him, and
>other authors such as Kevin Randle. Well, the case seems more
>and more dubious to me.

>Notes on some films cited by Martin Kottmeyer in his paper
>"Entirely Unpredisposed: the Cultural Background of UFO
>Abductions reports", and by Kevin Randle et al. in their book
>"The Abduction Enigma". The following comments are also drawn
>from the "Internet Movie Database Entry", referred to by
>Kottmeyer himself, and from some books about SF movies.


The point has never been that Betty Hill, or abductees in
general pulled the experience from specific science fiction
films (some of them incredibly bad like Killers From Space), but
contrary to the accepted comment that "there are no sci fi
gods or demons" from which they could have pulled these, such
cultural context does exist.

We have already seen a list of some of those films in which
abduction, implants, mystery scares, big-eyed aliens, missing
time, and many other features of the abduction phenomenon
exists. No, not all elements are featured in each of the films,
but many are. And we must not forget the Twilight Zone episode
"Hocus Pocus and Frisby" in which aliens abduct Andy
Devine - aliens whose nearly flat featured face and almond-
shaped eyes bears some resemblance to aliens described today
(and to my thinking, are closer to what Barney Hill described
that the aliens in the Bellaro Shield).

So, the point is, these descriptions and stories existed in the
cultural make up of society before there were reports of alien
abduction. This proves nothing one way or another, only the
claim about there being no precedence is inaccurate.


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