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Re: Michael Salla - Friedman

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:18:39 -0300
Fwd Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:57:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Michael Salla - Friedman


>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.miller4.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:03:57 +0100 (BST)
>Subject: Re: Michael Salla

>>From: Michael Salla <exopolitics.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 04:33:15 -1000
>>Subject: Re: Michael Salla

>>>From: Mike Jamieson <mike.jamieson.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:16:14 -0700
>>>Subject: Re: Michael Salla

<snip>

>>Some individuals will simply look into a whistleblower's
>>eyes, listen to the tone of their voice, observe their
>>physical posture, and based solely on these physical cues,
>>make a judgement call on their integrity and veracity.

><snip>

>>Even if the visual, auditory and other physical cues point to
>>someone telling the truth, they will demand more evidence.

>Michael et al,

>I'm staggered that this point has taken so long to come up in
>this debate, particularly when you consider that Dr. Salla's
>principle protaganist is a detective. C'mon Josh, you're not
>going to tell me that even at an intuitive level, you don't rely
>on "a gut feeling" based on signals picked up even sub
>concsiously. You won't base a case on it but it might swing
>whether someone remains for further questioning or is shown the
>door instead.

>Far more more affective and reliable than a lie detector test,
>while some body actions can be controlled when lying, others,
>and in particular the eyes, cannot.

>Any decent poker player here on this list will confirm this. We
>had enormous fun during the recent British general election,
>watching Peter Collett's analysis of what our politicians were
>_really_saying as he stripped them down to the bare bones.

>There is no question that when applied by an expert, it is a
>reliable method of deducing whether someone is telling the truth
>and should not be under valued or ignored.


I trust you are pulling our legs. I understand Ted Bundy was
well liked by lots of people. He was a serial killer. The world
is full of conmen who lie convincingly to their victims. Why not
just get rid of judges and juries and let script writers tell us
who is telling the truth? Michael Wolf spent time in a mental
hospital and might be considered a pathological liar.

There hasn't even been put forward a resume for either Lazar or
Kruvant. Salla on the other hand has a very nice one on his web
site which lists his educational and work history and his
publications. I was quickly able to verify his degrees from the
U. of Melbourne and Queensland. I sent Lazar's buddy, Gene Huff,
all kinds of goodies. None in return.

Salla tells us that not only can the government intimidate
witnesses (with which I agree), but can and does somehow manage
to have records expunged at MIT, Cal Tech, McGill, Georgetown,
Cambridge. They can cleanse all yearbooks. The fact that the
legal counsel at MIT says this can't be done doesn't matter.
Obviously he is lying and not Kruvant or Lazar. No purpose is
served by expunging, since it is the content of the claims as
whistleblowers that matter.

The testimony of Kruvant's brother and sister (I finally did
talk to her) and old friends, and a male lover of Kruvant for
several years, all agree that Kruvant was fantasizing, had been
in a mental hospital, etc., doesn't matter. Yes, he knew Fellini
during the time he spent in Europe. This surely contributes
nothing other than to suggest he was into the arts and not the
sciences, not the military, not medicine. Or was this an
assignment for MJ-12? Some of you may recall that being gay
would automatically kick one out of the military not too many
years ago... if found out.


Stan Friedman






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