From: Dave Haith <visions.nul> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:12:57 +0100 Fwd Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:41:44 -0400 Subject: Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term - Haith >From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul> >Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:02:48 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >To: ufoupdates.nul >Subject: Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term >>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:10:06 -0400 >>Subject: Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term >>>From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul> >>>To: ufoupdates.nul >>>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:30:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >>>Subject: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term >>>Who on the List believes that the very term "Fleets" used to >>>describe the Mexican UFO videos is biased and leads the reader >>>to believe the video is of a collection of intelligently >>>controllable vehicles which may at least (though highly >>>unlikely) have origination from contemporary Earth and at most >>>derive from alien (off-world, time travelers, whatever)? My only contact with James Smith was through the Moon mission control room UFO account from Dayne Hatten. All I can say, despite this barrage of insults from John Velez reflecting a James Smith who has crawled out from under a stone, James approached that subject from an utterly responsible and non-debunking point of view. In fact he was the only person to my knowledge apart from Don Ledger on this list who bothered to investigate this case at all. James spent hours trawling through NASA recordings of lunar events in an attempt to identify the scene described by Dayne. As it happens Dayne seems to have gone quiet on this one but James' - and Don's - diligent research could well have uncovered some genuine facts about the lunar control room incident. And on the 'fleet' issue - yes I agree with James. It is a loaded word - but perhaps a forgiveable one because - as somebody has pointed out - there is no collective noun for UFOs. If he's said 'swarm' there'd have been criticism that it was biased towards bees! John Velez might have been wiser to stick to 'a group of X number of UFOs moving in a seemingly controlled or patterned way', if that is indeed his case.
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