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Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term - Haith

From: Dave Haith <visions.nul>
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:12:57 +0100
Fwd Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:41:44 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term - Haith

>From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul>
>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:02:48 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Subject: Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term

>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:10:06 -0400
>>Subject: Re: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term

>>>From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:30:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>>>Subject: 'Fleet' Is Biased Term

>>>Who on the List believes that the very term "Fleets" used to
>>>describe the Mexican UFO videos is biased and leads the reader
>>>to believe the video is of a collection of intelligently
>>>controllable vehicles which may at least (though highly
>>>unlikely) have origination from contemporary Earth and at most
>>>derive from alien (off-world, time travelers, whatever)?

My only contact with James Smith was through the Moon mission
control room UFO account from Dayne Hatten.

All I can say, despite this barrage of insults from John Velez
reflecting a James Smith who has crawled out from under a stone,
James approached that subject from an utterly responsible and
non-debunking point of view.

In fact he was the only person to my knowledge apart from Don
Ledger on this list who bothered to investigate this case at

James spent hours trawling through NASA recordings of lunar
events in an attempt to identify the scene described by Dayne.

As it happens Dayne seems to have gone quiet on this one but
James' - and Don's - diligent research could well have uncovered
some genuine facts about the lunar control room incident.

And on the 'fleet' issue - yes I agree with James.

It is a loaded word - but perhaps a forgiveable one because - as
somebody has pointed out - there is no collective noun for UFOs.

If he's said 'swarm' there'd have been criticism that it was
biased towards bees!

John Velez might have been wiser to stick to 'a group of X
number of UFOs moving in a seemingly controlled or patterned
way', if that is indeed his case.

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