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Re: Brazilian UFO Disclosure Preparing The Field -

From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul>
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:02:46 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Fwd Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:16:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Brazilian UFO Disclosure Preparing The Field -

>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:29:08 +0000
>Subject: Re: Brazilian UFO Disclosure Preparing The Field

>>From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:19:42 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Subject: Re: Brazilian UFO Disclosure Preparing The Field

>>Its interesting that you seem to feel that the disclosed data
>>will help your case in the reality of UFOs (as alien spaceships,
>>since we all agree that UFOs, by defintion, obviously exist).
>>Perhaps, the data stored in the files will be able to be
>>analyzed by new methods to provide a more prosaic explanation
>>to the UFO phenomena in each case. You don't know.

>The simple, obvious truth is that if the UFO reports lent
>themselves to `prosaic' explanations, the military departments
>of the world (not just Brazil) would have long since opened up
>their files after deleting any legitimate security matters
>relating to radar capabilities or the like.

Wow! You are somewhat overgeneralizing aren't you? There are
lots of UFO reports in the military files. Some were just filed
away and forgotten and never researched. Some were tried to be
analyzed but failed for various reasons. Some are really neato
whiz bang genuine alien-like UFO spaceships.

You could be overestimating the abilities of the military
departments. I don't know, you don't know how good a specific
countries military is. They are likely pretty good at killing
people, but analyzing the subtilties of the UFO phenomena may be
beyond their technical abilities. If they had limited access to
satellite orbital data or other datasets, they may have missed
some things. Also, declassified projects elsewhere may play a
role in explaining prosaically the event which could not be
explained at the time due to poor data set access, poor

Also, I think most militaries are _not_ interested in opening
their records for _any_ reason. Doesn't matter if they are
prosaic or not.

I am surprised that the UFO folk out there believe what they get
from the military. I thought the military and government was not
to be trusted? I thought all sorts of conspiracies were going
on. Whats to keep them from faking records for whatever reason
(misinformation)? Its claimed NASA did this on the Mars Face
images and Apollo images.

>The simple, obvious
>truth that all long-term sceintifically and logically oriented
>UFO investigators know is that just about every Air Force in the
>world of any size has encountered unexplainable craft-like,
>maneuvering, controlled objects and they don't quite know what
>to do about it.

I agree that there are many such cases. But also prosaic ones.

>Standing by for a Pelican attack.

You by a sea shore? Or by a "flock" of UFOs?

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