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Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide -

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:04:48 +0100
Fwd Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:16:35 -0400
Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide -


>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:23:37 +0100
>Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide

>>From: Andy Roberts <andy.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:26:16 +0100
>>Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide

<snip>

>Andy,

>The Observer ran a story about the Flying Saucer Working Party,
>but it's clear that neither they nor you had all the documents
>at the time. On page 79 of your May 2002 book on the subject,
>you quote the aims and objectives of the working party. Or
>rather, you misquote them. In fact, the terms of reference were
>subsequently revised. I can send you the additional documents if
>you wish.

<snip>

I leave it to Andy to comment on the remainder of your post, but
I do feel qualified to comment on the above section. It might be
that you have come across documents that I haven't seen during
my three trips (totalling over 1000 miles, unfortunately I don't
live in or near London) to TNA specifically to study the
DSI/JTIC minutes. If so, I would appreciate being pointed in the
right direction, if you would be kind enough to identify your
source.

>From my records, the terms of reference which you promote at:

>http://www.nickpope.net/official_history.htm

-----

1. To review the available evidence in reports of "Flying
Saucers".

2. To examine from now on the evidence on which reports of
British origin of phenomena attributed to "Flying Saucers" are
based.

3. To report to DSI/JTIC as necessary.

4. To keep in touch with American occurrences and evaluation of
such

-----

were agreed in minute #6 of the 11th (1950) meeting of the
DSI/JTIC held on 29th August 1950.

Clarke and Roberts verion from page 79 of Out Of The Shadows,
reads as follows:

-----

1. To review the available evidence in reports of Flying
Saucers.

2. To examine the evidence on which future reports of British
origin of phenomena attributed to 'Flying Saucers' are based".

3. To report DSI/JTIC.

-----

I am not entirely sure where this version is sourced from though
they reference the same document that I do below which contains
a different version to both yours and theirs:

-----

1. To review the available evidence in reports of Flying
Saucers.

2. To examine the evidence on which [illegible] reports of
British origin of phenomena attributed to 'Flying Saucers' are
based.

3. To report as requisite.

-----

which was taken from an annex to minute #11 of the 14th (1950)
meeting of the DSI/JTIC held on 10th October 1950. This
certainly appears to post-date your preferred version and is
more similar to Clarke and Roberts' version than it is to yours.

I am puzzled as to why reference to "American occurrences and
evaluation of such" was removed, especially since the final
report relies so heavily on the US investigations.


Regards,

Joe




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