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From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:02:10 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) Fwd Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:15:03 -0400 Subject: Re: The End of SETI As We Know It? - Balaskas >From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul> >To: <ufoupdates.nul> >Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:06:54 -0300 >Subject: Re: The End of SETI As We Know It? >>From: Mac Tonnies <macbot.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) >>Subject: Re: The End of SETI As We Know It? >>>From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul> >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul> >>>Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 23:24:36 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) >>>Subject: Re: CI: The End of SETI As We Know It? >><snip> >>>Although the majority of people, including SETI scientists, talk >>>about life beyond Earth as if it was an established fact, the >>>sobering reality is that after all these years, we do not have >>>more compelling evidence now than we did anytime in the past for >>>this popular belief (with the possible exception of certain >>>ancient historical/religious documents where our ancestors >>>allegedly encountered intelligent beings from the heavens). This >>>lack of compelling evidence for life beyond Earth must include >>>the frequent accounts of strange lights in the sky and reported >>>sightings of other such UFOs. >>Alhough controversial, I think further evidence for ET >>intelligence can be found in the form of tangible artifacts on >>the surface of Mars, and quite possibly the Moon as well. >I think there is compelling evidence in the form of eyewitness >testimony from all over the world of clearly manufactured >objects behaving in ways that we earthlings can't duplicate or >we would in military applications. I include the 3000+ physical >trace cases from Ted Phillips from 90+ countries as well as many >mutiple witness radar visual cases such as investigated by Dr. >James E. Macdonald.There are the non phony photographs examined >by Bruce Maccabee. There is also a substantial body of evidence >related to Roswell. Hi Stan and Mac! Yes Stan, I agree that all this is very compelling evidence that UFOs are "real" but it's not really compelling enough for us to conclude with certainty that even a small number of these UFOs are indeed ET craft built and/or piloted by intelligent beings not from this Earth. There are other scenarios, although maybe not as extreme or unlikely as the ET one, that could better explain what continues to be seen and reported in our skies which this space-age generation has overlooked. One of these is what John Keel called "Ultraterrestrials". This would include all highly intelligent beings or species that coexist with us on this planet such as bees, demons or elves and dolphins, just to mention a few possibilities. As an example of what I mean, consider what my friend Wayne once told me. He was hiking along the deep Pacific coast of British Columbia while under the close scrutiny of an apparently very curious whale. As Wayne walked along the coast the whale closely followed, both eyeing each other all the time. My friend wondered what was going through the whale's mind. Was the whale wondering about how Wayne lived in this alien waterless world of mountains and trees? Was it wondering what Wayne did to survive and for entertainment, such as the music he played or listened to? Then a humbling thought came to Wayne's mind. Although we consider ourselves the only intelligent creatures on Earth who have adapted and populated much of this planet, we hardly knew anything about the alien water world of the whales which covers more of our planet than land does. >There are a number similar abduction accounts from many >countries including physical markings on the abductees. We have >the overwhelming evidence of government coverups in the form of >blacked out and whited out documents. Can I provide an alien >body or a piece of wreckage? no. Courts of law have even >convicted people of murder with less evidence. In Texas people >have had the death penalty based on testimony from one witness. In Saudi Arabia where I once lived and worked, the death penalty was applied for capital offenses only after the testimonies of several witnesses. It is for the same reason why Allan Hynek considered UFO sightings by multiple witnesses more interesting and credible than single witness ones. Even scientists and other skilled observers such as pilots and police officers can be totally wrong in the interpretation of what they actually saw. As for physical markings on abductees, suspected or otherwise, dermatologists and other medical experts can provide what to me are more rational and reasonable explanations. >Based on my direct experience with the SETI cultists, they are >totally unfamilar with the huge body of evidence. They, of >course, have none that there is anybody out there or anybody >sending signals using primitive technology compatible with our >primitive technology. >I can't force them to look at the evidence. Obviously if aliens >are visiting, there is not much need for the Silly Effort To >Investigate. Since radio waves are produced by natural objects in space and their detection can be used to study and understand the physics of stars, galaxies and the gases in space between them, it is not hard to imagine that intelligent ETs, if they do indeed exist out there, would not use radio wave detection equipment similar to what we have here on Earth. Since the SETI investigators have not detected the presence of ETs after many decades of searching our small region of the galaxy (remembering that equipment such as the centuries old internal combustion engines and the more recent plasma drives also produce telltale radio waves too) and it has not yet been established that those unexplained things or UFOs in the sky are actually ET spacecraft, we may conclude that we are either unique or special in the universe or we are still simply too dumb know better - just like the whale cannot possibly even imagine the world of man and man cannot fathom the world of the whale even though we both share the very same planet. As for Mac's comment that evidence for ET "intelligence" can be found in the form of tangible artifacts on the surface of Mars, I am not aware of these tangible artifacts which he refers to. As for other evidence for ET "life" on Mars, we still observe seasonal colour changes on this planet for example. These cyclic changes were first noticed by astronomers many decades before we visited the planet with our fleet of spacecraft from Earth. Recent Earth based spectroscopic observations that have even identified the presence of chlorophyll type compounds on Mars similar to those found on plants here on Earth but are still largely ignored by the scientific community for some reason - not unlike the 1976 discovery of microbial life on Mars with equipment aboard the U.S. Viking lander that was designed to find it if it indeed was present. Nick Balaskas
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