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Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide -

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:31:13 +0100
Fwd Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:44:46 -0400
Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide -

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To:  ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:08:24 -0300
>Subject: Re: British National Archives UFO Research Guide


>Where confusion applied to specific cases from the documents I
>could understand the need for accuracy, but the legitimacy of
>the documents from TNA would not be in question, regardless of
>who got them in the first place.

Hi Don, List,

The legitimacy of the documents were never in question - there is
an outstanding issue with regard to Nick's claim to have found
more recent documents than those seen by me, which might just
turn out to be an error. (If so, it's no big deal, we're all

The question as to credit for the discovery is paramount, as I
pointed out, because of the implications on ufology as a whole.

>But don't you think that Roberts or Clarke can argue this in
>their own stead rather than you and Martin with Nick Pope. They
>are the ones affected.

I can't speak for Martin, but this issue affects me - I have
research that I would like to share openly, but as with the
Hennessey article, I want it to be watertight so that no-one can
write me out of the scene afterwards. It was a full year after I
made contact with Hennessey that I felt comfortable with "going
public" with my research. It also took me two years to find him.
If I was more relaxed about sharing information, the timescales
could have been drastically different.

>As for collaboration, I think it will be a frosty day in hell
>before you and Nick line up on the same side.

You might be surprised - I actually do have some respect for
Nick. During his tenure, he did a number of things which I am
actually quite impressed with - he tried to build a relationship
between the MoD and ufology with some success, and I have also
seen proactive internal memos from him, warning other MoD
assetts of probable stimuli for new reports, such as imminent
meteor showers, laser displays, and the Virgin Balloon. That was
something which I have rarely (if ever) come across in the

My main issues are with the credit for the FSWP, and the
perceived inconsistencies between his presented image of the role
he was undertaking.

>Re retarded, are you referring to us as being mentally
>challenged or retarded as in the sense of being held back?

Mainly "held back", though there are some who might fit the
alternative meaning.



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