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Re: National Or Cultural Impacts On UFO Research -

From: Stuart Miller <stuart.miller4.nul>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:14:33 +0100 (BST)
Fwd Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:48:02 -0400
Subject: Re: National Or Cultural Impacts On UFO Research -


>From: Amy Hebert <ahebert.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:16:40 -0500
>Subject: Re: National Or Cultural Impacts On UFO Research

>>From: John Harney <magonia.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:25:35 +0100
>>Subject: Re: National Or Cultural Impacts On UFO Research

>>>From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:14:44 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>>>Subject: National Or Cultural Impacts On UFO Research

><snip>

>So not only do we face lack of standardization in UFO
>research, investigation and reporting, we also face language,
>cultural, political and economic barriers. But the greatest
>obstacle,  IMHO, is due to bias based on personal and group
>belief systems - the need to believe. People with a
>psychological need to believe and prove UFOs exist perceive
>and filter all information according to their belief systems
>(1). Whether it provides excitement or relief from personal
>fear, belief in UFOs can become intrinsic to one's concept of
>self and the world/universe. Taken to extremes, some people
>base their entire identities on the existence of UFOs and
>related phenomena. These extreme cases become so enmeshed in
>their 'UFO identities' that they stop looking for the truth
>because they subconsciously believe they have already found
>it. When confronted with alternative points of view, these
>enmeshed individuals experience confusion and seek conflict
>resolution often through intimidation and aggression or
>bullying. Because they feel threatened, they attack those
>they perceive as the source of their fears. Using every
>tactic from appeals for group defense to pompous ultimatums,
>these individuals attempt to remove what they perceive as
>their source of conflict never realizing the real conflict
>lies within their own ego needs; the need for love,
>affiliation and, above all, attention.

>Perhaps it is more of a "mixed bag" or "all of the above".
>Charlatans and scholars exist in all cultures. Truth and lies
>are translated in all languages. Every culture exhibits media
>and personal bias; some obvious, some subtle. Ultimately, it
>all boils down to the individual and how willing each person >
is to become an informed consumer of information. Each
>citizen of every country must ask themselves, in all honesty,
>do they want to believe or do they want the truth.

>(1) UFOs exist. It is the belief and promotion of UFOs as
>other worldly and/or unexplainable that is being addressed.

An excellent analysis Amy, but I found myself muttering, after
reading the above paragraph, "So what?"

I acknowledge there was no trace of censure or judgement in your
observations and I'm not accusing you of such, but I would have
been grateful if you had taken your analysis further and
explained why so many on both sides of the "believing" fence
feel a religious zeal in trying to correct the beliefs of those
they feel are mistaken. To me, this is the height of supreme
arrogance - as if one can straighten out the misguided philosphy
of those perceived to be wrong and set them on the road to
righteousness, as laid down by "me" of course. We should leave
these people, from whatever perspective, alone. If we consider
them ignorant, then leave them alone in their ignorance. They
are happy where they are and let's face it, who really is to say
they are wrong?

The real giveaways for me are the constant jibes, from both
sides. John's closing comment about reports, "not telling
ufologists what they want to hear" speaks volumes. I have no
idea if there was a "side" to James Smith's original post but it
struck me as a rather lame attempt to show that he was more open
minded than he is accused of being.

And somewhat belatedly, I would agree with John Velez's
orgiginal accusation levelled at Kyle King that there is an
element of racism in much of North America's responses to south
of the border UFO reports, and I detect the same strand in James
Smith's comments too. It is something that our South American
colleagues seem to put up with, with remarkable patience, but I
guess they're used to it.

And perhaps Amy, you might turn your spotlight on to the other
side, towards those who are perceived to be the models of common
sense in Ufological matters. What is their pathology? And go on,
be a devil, include yourself as well.


Stuart Miller




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