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What Makes Them Work? [was: Serious Question]

From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:17:08 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:58:54 -0400
Subject: What Makes Them Work? [was: Serious Question]

>From: Craig Beasley <fallingleaf.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:01:12 -0500
>Subject: Re: Serious Question


>Being an engineer, the restriction is obvious. If UFOs are
>craft of some sort, technological and physical, what makes them
>work? I devote myself to that. With the limited funds I have, I
>have some plans that have an unpleasantly long timeline.

Craig -

We had a discussion on this List a couple of years ago about the
Townsend Brown experiments in which he demonstrated net thrust
using high voltage capacitors. I'm sorry I don't remember/can't
find details now, but it turns out there are _two_ effects

One is a bit of thrust where the capacitor plates are exposed to
the ambient air, and some of the air molecules become ions. The
electric field actually causes a small flow of air near the
plates, forming a very small thrust electrostatic "rocket
engine". This is apparently the principle behind the model
"UFOs" which are sold on the web and look like the flying
triangles, and which depend on lightweight tether wires to
supply the charge to them.

The other, much more promising for those who would like to
construct a home made "UFO" were some experiments in which
capacitors enclosed within solid dielectric were found to
produce net thrust, again small, but seemingly these did _not_
depend on electrostatic rocketry.

I did see some web documentation on the solid dielectric
enclosed capacitor thrusters from what I recall was a serious

Presumably, if a dielectric could be found which is light enough
(like some of the amazingly lightweight ceramics?) and if
multiple plates could be stacked up like pancakes, and if
circular plates could be segmented and individually charged to
provide attitude control, maybe a "UFO" could be built on the
second principle which could indeed operate outside the

Clearly, UFO reports indicate far more sophisticated and
powerful technology is in use in the actual craft, but at the
same time, a "home brew" machine using electrostatic technology
would (or should) really shake the ground under the "noisy

Eleanor White

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