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Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill - Hebert

From: Amy Hebert <ahebert4.nul>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:30:12 -0500
Fwd Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:04:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill - Hebert

>From: Rich Reynolds <rrrgroup.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:28:06 -0500
>Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill

>>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:08:13 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill

>>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:54:25 EDT
>>>Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill


>>>What this means, simply, is that we cannot rely on the emotion
>>>of the subject as a way of telling if the experience was real,
>>>imagined, or is an outright lie.


>>Obviously, I think there are a whole host of reasons for
>>accepting the Hill story besides the emotion.


>>Because there are scam artists and liars certainly doesn't mean
>>that nobody is to be believed.


Gentlemen, List:

You have all raised valid points. The level of emotions
expressed in witness testimonies cannot be considered the only
or even a major factor in evaluating the credibility or lack of
in sighting/encounter cases. How much the subject believes his
or her encounter to be true is not a baseline upon which to
begin or end analysis. Unfortunately, in the past, too much
emphasis has been placed on the emotional involvement of the
witnesses while recounting their encounter(s).

After studying hypnosis and even obtaining my certification (in
a one weekend seminar, Ha!), I quickly realized I could not, in
any sense of professionalism, use this tool to evaluate
abduction claims. I threw all the books about abduction by many
of the most famous investigators/researchers out the door and
into storage (a process I highly recommend to anyone interested
in doing genuine scientific studies or investigations of
abduction claims). All the techniques used up to that point
(1997) and even to this day simply do not qualify as valid tools
upon which to base any scientific research or study.

What we have seen thus far in reference to abduction "research"
is nothing more than half-baked attempts to either find the
truth or keep it hidden. The very fact that these wholly
inadequate tools are _still_ the main techniques used in
abduction research is a clear indication little, if any,
progress has or will be made in solving this mystery.

Before anyone can think of researching even one abduction claim,
investigators/researchers must FIRST investigate whether or not
the individual has or has not actually been abducted. Unlike UFO
sightings, abductions are claimed to involve very close
interaction of the witness with objects and/or beings either
physically or through some other yet unknown method. As far as
research and investigations are concerned, a study of abduction
claims must begin with the search for _physical evidence_ in
some form using witness testimony only as a supplement rather
than the foundation of the entire study. (Note: the emphasis of
these studies are for research and investigation purposes not
necessarily required for therapeutic considerations.)

As long as we run around crying, "But they don't leave cocktail
napkins!" we won't even think to look for alien beer bottles
under the bed or in the closet. What I'm saying is, if we are
ever going to find the evidence needed to support or invalidate
abduction claims, we must dig much deeper into the human psyche
as well as the mysteries surrounding us.

Keeping in mind (always!) that, like humans, alleged abductors
may be quite capable of many levels of deception, our studies
must first focus on obtaining evidence that will qualify as
valid for the purpose of scientific research. Using individuals
claiming recurring abduction encounters, we may begin
investigating these claims by implementing double and triple-
 blind studies designed to gather any possiblem physical
evidence left at the initial scene of the encounter, on the body
of the claimed abductee and at any point along the timeline
during which the claimed abduction takes place.

Since power failures are often claimed to occur during abduction
sequences, mechanical devices which do not rely on electric or
battery powered sources are the preferred tools for gathering
potential evidence. These devices can be easily hidden within
conventional objects in order to conceal their existence and
purpose not only from the claimed abductee but also from the
awareness of the "abductors". Keeping the existence of these
devices and tools hidden help rule out possible manipulation of
the information/evidence by the claimed abductee or others with
whom he or she may interact.

Unfortunately, before any such studies can begin, we must first
find researchers and investigators not only _qualified_ to
conduct such studies but also more interested in finding the
truth than hiding it.

A. Hebert
"Follow the white rabbit..."

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