From: Amy Hebert <ahebert4.nul> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:30:12 -0500 Fwd Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:04:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill - Hebert >From: Rich Reynolds <rrrgroup.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:28:06 -0500 >Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill >>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul> >>To: <ufoupdates.nul> >>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:08:13 -0300 >>Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill >>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul> >>>To: ufoupdates.nul >>>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:54:25 EDT >>>Subject: Re: Robert Fulford, Betty & Barney Hill <snip> >>>What this means, simply, is that we cannot rely on the emotion >>>of the subject as a way of telling if the experience was real, >>>imagined, or is an outright lie. <snip> >>Obviously, I think there are a whole host of reasons for >>accepting the Hill story besides the emotion. <snip> >>Because there are scam artists and liars certainly doesn't mean >>that nobody is to be believed. <snip> Gentlemen, List: You have all raised valid points. The level of emotions expressed in witness testimonies cannot be considered the only or even a major factor in evaluating the credibility or lack of in sighting/encounter cases. How much the subject believes his or her encounter to be true is not a baseline upon which to begin or end analysis. Unfortunately, in the past, too much emphasis has been placed on the emotional involvement of the witnesses while recounting their encounter(s). After studying hypnosis and even obtaining my certification (in a one weekend seminar, Ha!), I quickly realized I could not, in any sense of professionalism, use this tool to evaluate abduction claims. I threw all the books about abduction by many of the most famous investigators/researchers out the door and into storage (a process I highly recommend to anyone interested in doing genuine scientific studies or investigations of abduction claims). All the techniques used up to that point (1997) and even to this day simply do not qualify as valid tools upon which to base any scientific research or study. What we have seen thus far in reference to abduction "research" is nothing more than half-baked attempts to either find the truth or keep it hidden. The very fact that these wholly inadequate tools are _still_ the main techniques used in abduction research is a clear indication little, if any, progress has or will be made in solving this mystery. Before anyone can think of researching even one abduction claim, investigators/researchers must FIRST investigate whether or not the individual has or has not actually been abducted. Unlike UFO sightings, abductions are claimed to involve very close interaction of the witness with objects and/or beings either physically or through some other yet unknown method. As far as research and investigations are concerned, a study of abduction claims must begin with the search for _physical evidence_ in some form using witness testimony only as a supplement rather than the foundation of the entire study. (Note: the emphasis of these studies are for research and investigation purposes not necessarily required for therapeutic considerations.) As long as we run around crying, "But they don't leave cocktail napkins!" we won't even think to look for alien beer bottles under the bed or in the closet. What I'm saying is, if we are ever going to find the evidence needed to support or invalidate abduction claims, we must dig much deeper into the human psyche as well as the mysteries surrounding us. Keeping in mind (always!) that, like humans, alleged abductors may be quite capable of many levels of deception, our studies must first focus on obtaining evidence that will qualify as valid for the purpose of scientific research. Using individuals claiming recurring abduction encounters, we may begin investigating these claims by implementing double and triple- blind studies designed to gather any possiblem physical evidence left at the initial scene of the encounter, on the body of the claimed abductee and at any point along the timeline during which the claimed abduction takes place. Since power failures are often claimed to occur during abduction sequences, mechanical devices which do not rely on electric or battery powered sources are the preferred tools for gathering potential evidence. These devices can be easily hidden within conventional objects in order to conceal their existence and purpose not only from the claimed abductee but also from the awareness of the "abductors". Keeping the existence of these devices and tools hidden help rule out possible manipulation of the information/evidence by the claimed abductee or others with whom he or she may interact. Unfortunately, before any such studies can begin, we must first find researchers and investigators not only _qualified_ to conduct such studies but also more interested in finding the truth than hiding it. A. Hebert "Follow the white rabbit..."
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