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Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Randle

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:38:50 EDT
Fwd Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:22:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions - Randle

>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:46:58 -0700
>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:48:09 +0200
>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:27:36 EDT
>>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions

>>>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:44:39 +0200
>>>>Subject: Re: Just A Few Roswell Questions


>>>>To me, there is a plausible explanation for the testimony of
>>>>Bessie Brazel. What she remembered, perhaps, was picking up with
>>>>her father some balloon debris on June 14. Her father said that
>>>>it was just garbage, they filled a couple of bags, brought them
>>>>back home and forgot about them. Until the military told Brazel,
>>>>on July 8, to subsitute that finding to the discovery of the
>>>>debris field at the beginning of July.

>>>Thank you!

>>>Ask and it shall be given! Seek and ye shall find!

>>>That one detail bothered me for some time as she really went
>>>into detail about it. Now I've got something that explains
>>>what probably happened.

>>>Don't know if she's still around but it would be good for
>>>someone to interview her again just for the record.
>>>Mr. Bourdais, these types of details are what the public will
>>>need to know. Perhaps you, Mr. Friedman and Mr. Randle can mock
>>>up your own questions and answers to the Roswell debate for
>>>posterity. Maybe even a collaboration and I for one would pay
>>>good money for it.

>>Yes, that Bessie testimony bothered me too, but it may be solved
>>nicely, as you see, once you admit that Brazel did find some
>>balloon debris on June 14. It also explains his second story, in
>>the evening of Tuesday 8, describing five pounds of balloon
>>debris with scotch tape and flower design on it. The NYU team
>>launched small clusters with targets every day in June, and it
>>is quite plausible that Brazel found one of them. But the debris
>>field of July was another story!

>>I like your idea of writing a sort on common text on the basics
>>of Roswell. But I am afraid it's going to be difficult. Some
>>people ask me that too in France. I have a book to finish
>>rapidly now, but perhaps I will try to write my own summary


>Bessie Brazel could conceivably have been at the Foster on July
>4 & 5. The first day of the annual regional rodeo in Capitan was
>July 4 and it was the big event of the year. Mack Brazel might
>very well have picked up his family in Tulerosa, driven to the
>rodeo in Capitan on July 4, then taken the family on up to the
>ranch later the same day. At this point, on July 4, the family
>maybe picked up debris, as reported in Brazel's interview. Maybe
>Bessie Brazel's memories stem from this. In one account from
>Bill Brazel, his father first drove the family home before
>proceeding to Rowell to report his find. So if this happened,
>Bessie Brazel would have been there maybe late July 4 through
>early July 6. Another possibility is Brazel driving them home on
>July 5, then going to Corona that night, mentioning what he had
>found, and first being told about the flying saucers.

Good Morning List, All -

Here was some of the real problems with Bessie Brazel's story.
She said that she was with her father when he took the debris
into Roswell and while he was at the sheriff's office, she and
the other family members were in the park.

Marcel never said a word about Brazel being with his family.
While Marcel wouldn't have seen them in the sheriff's office, he
certainly would have noticed them as they drove back to the

Cavitt never said a word about the Brazel family being there,
and had they been, it certainly would have made the balloon
story better.

Bessie said that he father didn't return to Roswell and wasn't
gone over night. She said that her mother would have killed him
if he had disappeared like that...

Except the evidence shows that he was in Roswell. Ignore all the
testimony about that from Edwin Easley telling me they kept
Brazel in the guest house on the base, to Walt Whitmore and Jud
Roberts talking about Brazel being at the radio station to all
the people who knew Brazel and saw him in town. Ignore the
neighbors such as Marian Strickland who talked about Brazel's
complaints about being held in jail (Easely's guest house is
Brazel's jail and if you're not allowed to leave, then it is

Ignore all that. Just look at the newspaper articles and we have
documentation that Brazel returned to Roswell in direct
contradiction to what Bessie said.

And look at what her brother said. He said he saw the story
about his father and knew that he was alone at the ranch. Knew
his father would need help and went there. His father returned
four or five days later.

This is just one area where her testimony falls apart. Let's not
forget she said that she, her brother Vernon, mother and father
picked up all the debris and put it into four burlap bags and
stored it under the porch...

So, what did Marcel and Cavitt see? Clearly the family had
already picked up the debris so there was no reason for Mack to
go into Roswell, no reason for Marcel and Cavitt to drive out
there, nothing for them to see, and no reason for her father to
return to Roswell to give the dumb weather balloon story.

If we have trouble with Bessie's story, it's because we're not
paying attention and nothing more.


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