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Re: The van Gogh Fallacy

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:50:37 +0000
Archived: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:03:49 -0400
Subject: Re: The van Gogh Fallacy

>From: James Horak <jchorak7441.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: The van Gogh Fallacy

>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:28:09 +0000
>>Subject: Re: The van Gogh Fallacy

>>From: Cathy Reason <CathyM.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:52:59 +0100
>>Subject: Re: The van Gogh Fallacy

>>>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:27:37 +0100
>>>Subject: The van Gogh Fallacy [was: Olson's Final Statement]

>>>The individuals named are all distinguished by an adherence to
>>>empirical rationalism

>>I have no wish to get involved in this particular discussion, but
>>"empirical rationalism" is a contradiction in terms.



>>As Gerald importantly notes, scientists do need to do a better
>>job, but you don't throw out science for that reason. And I
>>definitely get the impression that there are some people on this
>>List who wouldn't recognize good science if it jumped up and bit
>>them in the butt.

>Words are tools and to be adequate with them one must have the
>fineness to discern meanings between empirical, pragmatic,
>rational, and objective. They are not interchangeable, not to
>any 'science' anyway.

>Casting apersions constantly, you actually show some pretty
>clouded thinking yourself. That's another thing a real scientist
>would be far more circumspect in... the ridicule of others.


I'll let the Listers decide who is constantly casting aspersions
here, like referring to Gerald O'C and people of his "ilk" and
repeatedly insulting me.

All I did was explain my education and my reasoning process, and
in fact was discerning meanings of words... but that seems to
have escaped you in your zeal to attack and misrepresent the
views of those of us who advocate careful application of logic
and scientific method to UFOs.

One does not give "thoughful consideration" or equal time to
nonsense. Hope that doesn't give you heartburn.

 - Dick

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