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Re: 'Worm' UFOs Or Baloons?

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:27:11 -0400
Archived: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:52:00 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Worm' UFOs Or Baloons?

>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:19:48 -0300
>Subject: Re: 'Worm' UFOs Or Baloons?

>>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:20:30 -0400
>>Subject: Re: 'Worm' UFOs Or Baloons?

>>>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:30:14 -0300
>>>Subject: Re: 'Worm' UFOs Or Baloons?

>>>The balloon experiment is at the end. It was done by Claudeir
>>>and Paola Covo


>>I would say that the balloon experiment is disinformation. At
>>5:00 of the original video, there is an X-shaped cloud on the
>>left edge with some supposedly real UFOs nearby. At 5:20, the
>>helium balloons are released. At 5:57 we see the same X-shaped
>>cloud with the UFOs in the same positions as before. It seems as
>>though someone wants to cast doubt on the interpretation of the
>>original video as UFOs. Motive, please?

>I contacted Claudeir and Paola Covo, and they answered:

>"Dear William Treurniet,

>The images seen at 05:00 and 05:57, where an X-shaped cloud
>appears, are the same, which is, they were repeated (replay)".

>Claudeir Covo is a very well-known ufologist in Brazil who
>advances the ETH, so I find it hard to believe the video would
>be disinformation. On another occasion, he clearly stated that
>the video of the experiment was made just to let the viewers
>decide. He didn't claim the alleged Flotillas seen are indeed
>balloons like the ones he and his wife filmed. He just showed
>videos of both of them.

The release of the balloons was followed immediately by the
video of the UFOs. The editing did more than raise the question
whether the dots in the sky are balloons. My initial impression
was that these UFOs were intended to be seen as the released
balloons. However, after your comment, it's possible that this
was not intended by the author.

Perhaps the same thing is happening here as with the crop
formations. There may be a "real' phenomenon, and now it is being
obscured by people contributing noise. Your comment that people
are seeing Pokemon and Spongebob in the sky makes it likely but
not certain that people are involved.  A number of people,
including a group, have claimed that particular crop formations
were formed after they had meditated on very similar images a
short time before. Since Pokemon and Spongebob are cultural
icons, maybe their images are powerful enough to appear in the
sky without further human participation. We just can't say until
we know the underlying dynamics.

The pictures of Mayan icons in Jaime Mausson's presentation at
the 2005 UFO Conference:


seem to be more than simple balloons. I did some image
processing of a few using the Gradient Map function of Adobe
Photoshop Elements 2.0. Some objects have a texture which could
be interpreted as a solid core. See objects at 39:14, 40:13,
40:33, and 40:50. On the other hand, the texture could be
pictures painted on a surface.

In an earlier part of Mausson's presentation, he shows swarms of
dots forming images in the sky (24:00-34:00). Complex patterns
of dots move in concert to transform from one shape to another,
and move together at high speeds across the sky. The clincher
runs from 30:20-31:00 where a ufo launches a smaller version of
itself like a slingshot. The Gradient Map function applied to
single frames confirms the similarity in the internal shape of
the parent and offspring. There is even a hint of a circular
force field around the parent object.

So passive balloons floating in the sky would not be my first
choice for explaining these phenomena.

Best regards,


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