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Re: Crop Circles To Be Debated

From: Paul Scott Anderson <paulscottanderson.nul>
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:18:42 -0700
Archived: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:23:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Crop Circles To Be Debated

>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:28:54 -0400
>Subject: Re: Crop Circles To Be Debated

>Since you seem very well informed on crop circles, could you
>summarize some of the features considered to indicate genuine as
>opposed to human-made glyphs?

Well, maybe a bit... it's just something I've been involved
with and studying for about 17 years now (since my former MUFON
days and even before I started CCCRN in 1995).

The most viable features at this point, which still have not
been duplicated in any testing experiments (even by MIT a few
years ago), are the highly elongated and ruptured stalk nodes.
Sometimes nodes have been found stretched up to as much as 200%
+ their normal length. Manual crushing has been found to
sometimes elongate them as well, but only to a few percent at
most, not nearly as much. The ruptured nodes have been found in
various crops, including even corn here in Canada and elsewhere.
These stalks are much thicker than wheat or barley, etc. As I've
reported previously, we've found them along the entire length of
9-10 foot tall stalks in some formations. That includes nodes
showing no signs of bending (and associated stress) and nodes on
stalks near the edges of at least one formation here which were
still standing and never flattened. And hundreds or more of them
inside formations, but not in the surrounding field. There may
still be a prosaic explanation, but we don't don't know what
that is, if so. We've had farmers and agricultural consultants
look at these also. More info and photos:


Other current scientific evidence is summarized there also (and
the people who insist that all formations since the 1980s must
be hoaxes have yet to explain some of these anomalies in
presently-occuring formations).

There are also sometimes very complex lays of the crop although
these can be accomplished, to some extent at least, by people.
I've examined formations in Saskatchwan in particular though
that had lay patterns which were complex, impressive and

Hoaxed formations though, in general, can usually be identified
by scrape marks on the stalks, crushed plants, footprints,
flattened 'construction line' paths (some debate about those
though) and sometimes just really bad looking geometry. And a
lack of the node anomalies in formations which were known to be
man-made and were able to be examined.


Paul Scott Anderson

Canadian Crop Circle Research Network

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