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Re: Brad Sparks' 'Forthcoming' Roswell Revelations?

From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:20:32 EDT
Archived: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:25:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Brad Sparks' 'Forthcoming' Roswell Revelations?


>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:53:24 +0200
>Subject: Re: Brad Sparks' 'Forthcoming' Roswell Revelations?

>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:53:52 EDT
>>Subject: Re: Brad Sparks' 'Forthcoming' Roswell Revelations?

>>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:26:08 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Brad Sparks' 'Forthcoming' Roswell Revelations?

<snip>

>>You apparently are happy to read about 100 more anecdotal
>>accounts of Roswell that are exactly like the first 100 Roswell
>>accounts in the 1980's, and any slightly different or 'new' data
>>still does not result in anything but a dead-end, no documents,
>>no physical evidence, no uncovering of the repository holding
>>the alleged alien ship and pickled crew members. I am not
>>satisfied with such disappointing results and am surprised that
>>you would be.

>I have twice read the book by Tom Carey and Don Schmitt., I have
>listened to them and talked with them in Roswell, and I am quite
>impressed by the quality of their resarch, which reinforces the
>already impressive case of a UFO crash near Roswell.

But Gildas, further down you admit that Schmitt himself is
"pessimistic."  How is that possible if his work is such a great
step forward to "final proof" (your words farther down)??

Sorry but all we have from Carey-Schmitt is more of exactly the
same kind of dead-end anecdotes we got in 1980 from Berlitz and
Moore-Friedman. How many more years of interviewing Roswell
townspeople and _relatives_ of Roswell townspeople before we
realize that they lead us nowhere but to the _town_ of Roswell,
New Mexico?  Roswell is the graveyard of investigative dead-end
leads, exactly as the AF likes it.

Now if a crashed spaceship and dead aliens were stored in a
secret underground vault under Roswell why then it might make
some sense to keep investigating Roswell town leads.

>Now, about Karl Pflock, I read his two books, of 1994 and 2001.
>I was intrigued by the first one, which seemed to leave the door
>opened to something else. So, I was glad to meet him, at the
>1995 MUFON Symposium in Seattle. But I realised that he was
>then totally supporting the Mogul 4 explanation. And it is the
>same with his book of 2001. So, I really don't know what you
>have in mind now, regarding Karl Pflock.

I should explain that I brought up Pflock's 1994 book to
illustrate how the 'open door' to ETH at Roswell can be opened
without involving a recovered ET spacecraft or alien bodies.
For more on this see below.

I should also explain that I stated in the MUFON Proceedings
article on Pratt's files and MJ-12 that the reason I mentioned
my own pro-ETH evidence for Roswell was out of "fairness" and
balance, since my own conclusion is skeptically non-ETH.

Refuting MJ-12 is an anti-ETH result and I didn't want readers
to think that means there is nothing to Roswell and no evidence
at all for ETH, if in fact I have found something pro-ETH that
is contrary to my own position on the subject.

But I was lambasted for not posting _all_ this pro-Roswell
evidence on UFO UpDates even before my investigation has had a
chance to get underway.  Yet I see no one complaining that
Carey-Schmitt should have posted their entire book on UpDates
_before_ publication in order to undergo "peer review."  Double
standard.

Finally, lest there be any misunderstanding, I have completely
eliminated a Mogul balloon at Roswell, based on finding that
Flight 4 could not possibly have _successfully_ flown almost 100
miles to Brazel's Debris Field since the next Mogul Flight 5 was
in fact the "first successful" Mogul flight, according to the
NYU Final Report.  Crary's diary records that Flight 4 was
cancelled, and in fact it must have been launched the next
morning _as_ Flight 5, which was recovered.  So we know Flight 5
did not land on Foster Ranch a hundred miles away from where it
was followed by the Mogul project chase-plane and actually
retrieved.

>What could there be between the Mogul tale and the UFO crash? I
>will be quite interested to learn, when you will tell us
>something about it. In the meantime, I consider that a lot of
>progress has been made, since the end of the 80's, and again
>this year, in the direction of the UFO crash hypothesis.

At the risk of repeating myself and violating Hall's Law, I did
explain all this.  Karl's scenario suggested an ET vehicle
collided with a Mogul balloon possibly leaving some anomalous
debris or residue but _no_ crashed spaceship or bodies.  That is
_one_ example of an in-between scenario.  Many others can be
suggested _without_ a Mogul balloon, especially the one coming
from the most credible witness data, which I consider to be the
CIC agents and what they reported about LaPaz's scientific
investigation of Roswell.  They saw no bodies and no ship.  But
they did see a burned area or crater with melted glass, etc.
That's an 'in between'.


Brad




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