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Re: Crop Circles Discussion

From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:26:46 -0300
Archived: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:29:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Crop Circles Discussion

>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:02:45 -0400
>Subject: Re: Crop Circles Discussion

>1. Did Crabwoods and the known to be human made glyphs using the
>"new technique" have woven laid down areas and no signs of

It all depends on what you consider "woven laid down areas" and "no
signs of footprints". Many clearly human-made glyphs present a pattern
on how the crops were laid down, sometimes woven in certain areas.
The same for "no signs of footprints".

What I think would be really intriguing would be plants actually
woven, or plants individually woven over each other, in long
extensions. I have never seen any report of that, it's always some
images of batches of plants woven over one another. And I do think it
would be possible to hoax that if one developed a machine, it's simply
that nobody seems to have cared to so far.

I even think one could create a very interesting formation that could
have different aspects when viewed from different angles, just using
the pattern of the laid down crops. I have also never seen any glyph
with such feature.

>2. Do you happen to know how many time distortion reports (in
>glyph as compared with outside the glyph) have been made, and
>how reliable those reports are regarded to be?

I don't know exactly how many, but even the circlemakers report
"anomalies" when they are creating the glyphs:


But, as with the alleged anomalies on crops, unless that's
established objectively, reviewed and if possible, reproduced,
that's not reliable at all.

The much referenced work of the BLT team is sometimes touted as
objective evidence, but one must note many things, among others
that they always advance the plasma vortex hypothesis, even for
complex formations (which Terence Meaden himself argued against)
and make use of strange methodology. Not to mention how they
also promote dubious evidence like:


Or how Levengood (L of BLT) endorsed an alleged evidence that
was clearly part of a hoax:


As with the Flotillas, despite much talk, there's no solid proof
that the mystery even exists. Though crop circles are obviously
given more serious attention than the Flotillas, indeed.

Disclaimer: I have never been to the UK, and there has never
been any complex crop circle in Brazil, as far as I know. So
these are just armchair considerations!



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