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Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?

From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:39:40 EST
Archived: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:27:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?


>From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:53:09 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?

>>From: Brian Ally <ufoupdates.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:15:49 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?

<snip>

>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:54:29 EST
>>Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?

<snip>

>So there are unfortunately no new CIA documents.

>Still, I got to the CIA website and checked their FOIA library on UFOs
>with new eyes and found this pearl:

>UFO Briefing For Dr. Edward Condon, 5 MAY 1967

Yeah this was released in the 70's, nothing new.

>I discovered in Edward Condon an honest man who, in the end, had to
>bend to ! his employers. It must have been very difficult for him.

Oh please! You must be joking. Condon was not working for the
CIA just because he got a briefing there! He was working for the
far more insidious and hostile AF.

If you check around some more you'll find a memo by CIA NPIC
(National Photographic Interpretation Center) Director Arthur C.
Lundahl to his boss the DDI saying that Condon's visit and
contacts would give the CIA a "window" into the Colorado UFO
Project. Instead of controlling Condon they were having to use
him to spy on what the AF was up to with the Colorado Project,
unwittingly of course, just by Condon and colleagues keeping
NPIC posted on their work.

>On May 5 1967, Dr. Condon and his group conferred on the
>(Zanesville Ohio) UFO pictures:

>"... Dr. Condon and his colleagues <snip> were most
>enthusiastic. They were impressed with the scope and the
>analysis [blanked out] had conducted which included ground
>survey techniques and densitometric traces. Dr. Condon stated he
>had for the first time a scientific analysis of a UFO that would
>stand up to investigation...

<snip>

>This is probably old knowledge for the seasoned ufologists on
>the List (and old suppression for the seasoned debunkers).

Speaking of "suppression" aren't you leaving out the most
salient point which is that our pro-UFO hero David R. Saunders
was part of Condon's group visiting the CIA? You also left out
that they weren't visiting some spooky CIA spy operation but
simply touring the photographic facilities of NPIC which
processed U-2 and satellite recon pics.

Saunders never breathed a word of his CIA NPIC visit and
contacts to anyone, even after Condon fired him in Feb 1968 over
the famous pro-UFO incident when he leaked the Low 'trick' memo
to McDonald. Why not ponder the coverup involved with that?

>This was some revelation to me.

>The magnitude of the implications leaves me speechless. Most of
>the text could have been capitalized.

Lots more than just this, and released in the 70's, but it would
require an in-depth investigation of CIA organization and
history to understand it, beginning with the fact the CIA is not
a monolithic agency speaking and acting with one voice. Most UFO
researchers cannot even keep up with the polarized 'covert' and
'overt' sides of the CIA, so everything that is 'CIA' is
automatically attributed to spook assassins and James Bond
types.


Brad Sparks



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