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Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?

From: Greg Boone <evolbaby.nul>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 06:55:06 -0800
Archived: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:15:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?

>From: Jay Nelson <jnelson.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:59:10 -0700
>Subject: Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?

>>From: Greg Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:15:03 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?


>>The stories are so horrifying I can't repeat them. Gut
>>wrenching, mind-numbing, spine-chilling would all be
>>understatements to the second power. I had no idea there were so
>>many ways to torture people. These stories make Torquemada look
>>like bake off pastry chef. No wonder abductees are so quiet and
>>reserved. After experiencing things I'm reading I'd be locked up
>>in a mountain with enough firepower to take on the 7th Fleet.


>>Dr. Jacobs book The Threat, just became more important in my

>>The next guy making with the benevolent space brothers, they're
>>older and wiser than us, they're aliens so they're more
>>benevolent nonsense is gonna get the works from me.

>>Sorry I even asked the question in the first place.

>>Our history on this world needs a revamp.

>Having tried to bring the horrific reality of clergy sexual
>abuse to the attention of the world for the past decade or so, I
>must resoundingly agree with your assessment of the difficulties
>involved in bring up these subjects.

>_Nobody_ wants to deal with this kind of stuff, whatever the
>source. Not victims, not therapists, not the authorities. And
>it's all understandably quite human.

>And with abductees, the effects must be even worse, as you say.
>Their utter powerlessness and isolation must be even more soul-

>Which makes me wonder about all that talk about us as 'soul-
>containers'. If that's what we are, it seems the aliens have
>little respect for the packaging...

>Anyway, I just wanted to say that my experiences in exposing
>such difficult topics show that _any_ such disclosure must be
>done very gradually. It starts off with the least horrific and
>advances by baby steps to the full truth. It takes time and
>courage, both by the revealer and the listener, too.

>And if the stories seem unbelievable, well, a friend who
>survived the worst abuse I've ever heard about once said,
>"Denial is our friend." It is a kindness that can keep us alive
>and more-or-less functioning.

>We are getting there, as this discussion proves, but it will
>take awhile.

Thank you so much for replying Jay!

It's been a rough few days going over this data. So much is
coming back to me as to why I remained in this field of study
when all logic said to ditch it and go on with a somewhat normal

I grew up in an area of so many abductions it was common place
to see people bending an elbow to get away from it and worse. I
kept denying and shrugging it off but no matter where I went in
this country people would come up with the same stories.

When I asked folks in other countries I would get similar
stories but from different viewpoints. It seems in the old
countries and cultures these beings are referred to as the
'ancient ones' or 'manufacturers' or some such.

Even the Armenians in my neighborhood have a 'so-what' attitude
to the situation and their point is one of we're responsible and
part and parcel to the problem. They didn't even bat an eye and
if you've ever met Armenian folks they're some of the toughest
people I've ever met. You could drop a planet on them and they'd
shake it off and keep on keeping on.

Now that my memory is kicking in. I've realized I'm just as
guilty of denial as our authorities. So much has happened over
the past ten or twelve years I've been doing the Ufology thing
in earnest via the web I didn't think people would believe me.

Now that I've studied more and met so many people via the Web
including on the ground I've lost count how many people I've
interviewed, I've got a pretty clear simple picture of what's
going on and it's irking our visitors. For some strange reason
it's 'hands off' on me and I now know why but that's a whole
other story.

Bottom line is removing all the social things and just looking
at the basics such as predator and prey, symbiosis etc. things
even out.

Now, focusing on your point regarding help for abductees and
harrassed witnesses, I recall spending lots of time and money
trying to help folks out in the late 90s. Hold on to your hat
for this one though, my error was in thinking the mental help
professionals were the key but one day during our live chat show
on AOL's Parascope Magazine I asked the guests what did they
think about psychiatrists in helping in the abductee matter and
you would think I had said a bad word.

In the years I had worked in that forum with thousands of people
coming through it every day the chatters never totally agreed on
anything and would fight tooth and nail over every issue, but
when I mentioned psychiatrists you'd have thought I said the
ultimate cuss word.

Men, women, black, white, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist,
tall, short, young, old, conservative, liberal, all piled in
there and lambasted psychiatry like it was a snake in the yard!

I had never received so many e-mails and chat posts regarding
the horror stories people had undergone in psychiatric hopitals.

They sounded like something from a Frankenstein movie but a
thousand times worse.

I was totally caught off guard and realized abductees had
nowhere to go and that's why they were visiting our magazine to
support group one another.

One woman who had undergone brutality I'd never be able to
conceive of told all of us and showed us documentation regarding
what happened to her. I had to send her to a lawyer to get the
situation taken care of.

Later, Jeff Rense and several of his colleagues straightened me
out on psychiatry too. Even Dr. Mack gave us some tips on
handling abductees during the 50th anniversay at Roswell and
I'll dig that video up and post it. He was glad I asked him
about bedside manner in regard to it all.

Eleanor mentioned the MKULTRA victims. Several of them came into
our chat room and their stories were so out-there we almost fell
out of our chairs. They even had documentation and I was able to
confirm many things they said because I had the contacts to do

I should have known having grown up in the Hudson Valley of NY
and there were huge psychiatric hospitals and instutions up
there. I mean Ponderosa sized institutions.

I sure got a lesson how futile a lot of psychiatry is and the
sinister deals done behind the scenes. After reading and
watching testimony before Congress I didn't know who was worse,
the aliens or the headshrinkers!

I've calmed down a bit and agree with you on handling things
gradually. I'm going to get more data from foreign sources to
back up some data and will pursue all of this. If the general
public knew this stuff they would totally freak.



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