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Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?

From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 08:13:32 -0800
Archived: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:33:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?


>From: Jay Nelson <jnelson.nul>
>To: UFOupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:59:10 -0700
>Subject: Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?

>>From: Greg Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>>To: <UFOupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:15:03 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Will The UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?

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Hi, Jay & Fellow Listerions,

I've been observing the essential back-and-forth on this issue.

How, apparently, absolutely horrifyingly some UFO abductees
have been dealt with, both by 'abductors' and individuals who
allegedly facilitate their coming to terms, or _not_, with their
individual experiences.

The time has indeed now come to present a compilation of these
stories and the research that, hopefully, underlies them, as
just talking about the "horror that must not be named" (or
described) in increasingly nebulous terms is very much less than
either helpful or productive.

Despite the erstwhile comments of one List member recently who
suggested List members, to some degree, are voyeurs or some
kind of afficiandos of what might be termed 'alien porn', isn't
it incumbent on those aspects of the UFO community, and related
researchers, who are aware of the data and alleged details of
these '"all too-close encounters' to, in some way, or via some
channel, document these stories?

How would one be able to discriminate between actual experiences
and 'tall tales' told by those who may not be either telling the
truth or may be delusional?

These issues seem to me, at least, to be going unanswered, and
without any further, real substantiation or research study or at
least an article or blog post somewhere which touches on the
matters I'm suggesting continue to go 'wanting' in either detail
or, dare I say, credibility, just what are we doing here going
around in circles, again?

I say put some meat/facts on the table, or perhaps we should
just retire to the smoking room of rumors and platitudes where
we may prepare our precious post-prandial puffery and be done
with the subject for now, as otherwise, time and energy is being
wasted in lieu of some- thing more substantial than the
requisite smell of smoke being circulated in the drawing rooms
of our current 'wilderness of mirrors'. Sorry to sound so harsh,
but these discussions are taking on Lovecraftian proportions,
IMHO.

If you're talking about the really quite touchy and repellant
subject of human mutilation, then that's already out there, on
the web and elsewhere, but if it's something even more horrible
(which I find difficult to imagine), then shouldn't we know
something, with some substantiation and detail, at least enough
to be able to even come to some perspectives on the matter, let
alone research, documentation, and scientific analysis thereof?

If what you're implying is as monstrous as it sounds, then we
not only should know, we have a right to know, don't we? I don't
care to add to this fray, but what are the facts that can really
be established here?

To paraphrase the infamous poster on the wall of Fox Mulder on
the X-files, I do _not_ want to believe. Belief without fact is
an error. I want to know the truth, no matter what it is. Only
that will begin to even allow us to become free. Without it, we
are only whispering in the dark, scaring the gullible and
preaching to the faithful. Enough!

Some here need to either, to put directly, "put up or shut up."
IMHO. The very title of this thread begs the question: "Will The
UFO Horror Stories Get News Attention?" The answer is no, not if
we can't even discuss this among ourselves in any realistic way.

What say you all?


Steve


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