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Re: Edward Condon [was: Newly Released CIA

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:26:09 -0400
Archived: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:07:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Edward Condon [was: Newly Released CIA


>From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:12:50 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?

>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:39:40 EST
>>Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?

<snip>

>>>I discovered in Edward Condon an honest man who, in the end, had to
>>>bend to ! his employers. It must have been very difficult for him.

>>Oh please! You must be joking. Condon was not working for the
>>CIA just because he got a briefing there! He was working for the
>>far more insidious and hostile AF.

><snip>

>No, I am not joking. Please read on.

>>Speaking of "suppression" aren't you leaving out the most
>>salient point which is that our pro-UFO hero David R. Saunders
>>was part of Condon's group visiting the CIA? You also left out
>>that they weren't visiting some spooky CIA spy operation but
>>simply touring the photographic facilities of NPIC which
>>processed U-2 and satellite recon pics.

>>Saunders never breathed a word of his CIA NPIC visit and
>>contacts to anyone, even after Condon fired him in Feb 1968 over
>>the famous pro-UFO incident when he leaked the Low 'trick' memo
>>to McDonald. Why not ponder the coverup involved with that?

><snip>

>You said that the concerned document is "nothing new". Obviously
>it has been a long time since you read it: there is no reference
>to any R. Saunders and no mention of anyone touring anything.

>It is only a report on the reactions of Condon and his group on
>the value of the Zanesville photography.

>More: the reader discovers in Condon a passionate man overly
>enthusiastic about the possibility it is the real deal. He even
>wanted to share this with the public.

>That is all that is said, written and inferred in the reference
>I mentioned.

>I thought this was some lesson of life: people change under
>whatever pressure.

>It is also evident that Condon did not deny the reality of UFOs.

>For me, this is a good story about human nature, when you
>consider how the man was demonized - and still is - by
>ufologists.

><snip>

>>>This was some revelation to me.

>>>The magnitude of the implications leaves me speechless. Most of
>>>the text could have been capitalized.

>>Lots more than just this, and released in the 70's, but it would
>>require an in-depth investigation of CIA organization and >history to

>understand it, beginning with the fact the CIA is not >a monolithic
>agency speaking and acting with one voice. Most UFO >researchers
>cannot even keep up with the polarized 'covert' and >'overt' sides of
>the CIA, so everything that is 'CIA' is >automatically attributed to
>spook assassins and James Bond >types.

><snip>

>I am talking about human nature, you're talking about The
>Company.


<snip>

What do you both think of Condon's possibly being complient
after his roughing up by the House Un-American Activities
Committee? He got off but who stepped up to get him out of that
mess?


Don Ledger



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