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Re: Edward Condon

From: Richard Hall <dh12.nul>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:02:40 -0500
Archived: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:25:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Edward Condon

>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:05:54 EST
>Subject: Re: Edward Condon [was: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?]

>>From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:12:50 -0500 (EST)
>>Subject: Re: Newly Released CIA Documents On UFOs?


>>It is only a report on the reactions of Condon and his group on
>>the value of the Zanesville photography.

>The value of the Zanesville photos to Condon was that the NPIC
>assistance helped prove it was a HOAX. The May 8, 1967, NPIC
>memo describes a briefing on the Zanesville case during Condon's
>May 5 visit to CIA, given by (deleted name) Everitt Merritt of
>Raytheon Autometrics Division, apparently a CIA contractor that
>worked with NPIC.

>Condon made arrangements to contract with Raytheon and Merritt
>to apply his UFO photoanalysis techniques developed with the
>Zanesville hoax case to other UFO photo cases. The only other
>case where there was a stereo pair allowing photogrammetry was
>the famous McMinnville case. But this was the nearest thing to a
>genuine UFO, according to Condon's own astronomer photoanalyst
>William K. Hartmann (who was with Condon at CIA in May 1967).


>>More: the reader discovers in Condon a passionate man overly
>>enthusiastic about the possibility it is the real deal. He even
>>wanted to share this with the public.

>You need to read up on tricky Condon. He told an audience of the
>American Chemical Society on January 25, 1967, that he the
>government should "get out of this [UFO] business" because
>"there's nothing to it." Condon smiled and added "but I'm not
>supposed to reach a conclusion for another year."

>(Saunders & Harkins UFOs>? Yes! 1968 p. 117; Jacobs 1976
>p. 201

>Condon was famed for his love of contactee "kook" cases, his
>frequent cursing of the "damn ooo-foe" as he liked to pronounce
>it. Condon made up bogus evidence against UFO reality, such as
>his egregious lie that witnesses to a prank hot-air balloon in
>Castle Rock, Colo., had reported seeing a "spacecraft ... with
>occupants." In fact no one reported any such thing and all of
>the reports right in the Condon Report accurately described a
>slow-moving balloon-like translucent object.

>>That is all that is said, written and inferred in the reference
>>I mentioned.

>>I thought this was some lesson of life: people change under
>>whatever pressure.

>>It is also evident that Condon did not deny the reality of UFOs.

>Again, you need to read up on Condon.

>>For me, this is a good story about human nature, when you
>>consider how the man was demonized - and still is - by

>Uh huh. You need to talk to someone who was actually there, like
>Dick Hall.

Dick Hall agrees completely with Brad's characterization of
Condon - but not of his views on the Air Force vs CIA.

Mr. Merritt of Raytheon approached NICAP - me - requesting UFO
photographs that contained the elements that would allow
photogrammetric analysis. He told me, in a little white lie,
that he wanted to demonstrate Raytheon's photoanalysis
capabilities so they could obtain a contract from the Colorado
UFO Project.

I did not know at that time that they were consultants to the
CIA. Nor did I know about the Colorado members' tour of NPIC -
CIA's National Photographic Interpretation Center - until well
after the fact.

I loaned the Ralph Ditter photos to Merritt, telling him at the
time that we had already concluded that they were hoaxes based
on our own analysis. He didn't care about that, since (he said)
they only wanted to demonstrate their methods and capabilities.
The rest is history that becomes clearer only in hindsight.

 - Dick

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