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Re: The Arnold Case - Solved?

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:20:40 -0400
Archived: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:20:21 -0500
Subject: Re: The Arnold Case - Solved?


>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:13:21 -0500
>Subject: Re: The Arnold Case - Solved?

>>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:49:27 -0800
>>Subject: Re: The Arnold Case - Solved?

>>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 00:51:04 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: The Arnold Case - Solved?

>snip

>>>As I pointed out in my earlier email response directly to
>>>Rimmer, I consider this to be a variant of the Hynek
>>>explanation: Hynek didn't specify the type of aircraft, just
>>>that it was a large aircraft about 6 miles in front of Arnold,
>>>if I recall correctly (and flying about 400 mph).

The obvious huge size of the thing notwitstanding - see Dave's
calculation below - 400mph would have been an unremarkable
speed, literally. A dozen or more prop driven aircraft were
capable of that speed.

>>Hynek's, incorrect, argument was that according to his incorrect
>>calculation based on Arnold's description, the objects would
>>have been over 2000 feet long, which he deemed impossible.

>>Hynek was off by at least a factor of 5-10, as I have explained
>>previously on the List, based on his misunderstanding of how
>>human visual acuity is measured.

>This is also discussed in the article at my web site.

>>So Hynek instead proposed jet planes maybe 6 miles away instead
>>of Arnold's 23. Does anybody see the second flaw in his
>>argument?

>>All Hynek did was bring his giant objects about 4 times closer,
>>which would scale them 4 times smaller. So instead of objects

>>>over 2000 feet long, we would have "jet fighters" over 500 feet

>>long. That's still a trifle big. This is pretty elementary
>>stuff, yet Hynek never seems to have seen the obvious absurdity
>>of his argument. He was still dismissing the Arnold sighting
>>even after his Bluebook days.

A 500 foot long aircraft at 6 miles would have been very
identifiable, if conventional, never mind scary. You can easily
pick out a B-747 at 6 miles and identify as same-or a DC-3.

>And no self-respecting bomber would "flip and flash in the
>sunlight"

Particulary one that didn't exist to begin with.

The B-47's thin wing had 5 feet of deflection over a complete
cycle [up and down]. It was a high altitude bomber not meant for
nape of the Earth operations particularly around mountain tops
and mountain waves.


Don Ledger



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