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Re: Penniston NP Conference & King

From: Lan Fleming <lfleming5.nul>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:31:56 -0600
Archived: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:42:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Penniston NP Conference & King

>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:02:08 +0000
>Subject: Re: Penniston NP Conference & King


>Pardon my intrusion at this late stage in the exchange, but it
>has revived some thoughts about Rendlesham that have been
>puzzling me intermittently over the years.

>A fascinating discussion, this, on a fascinating case. Martin
>has been absolutely right to draw attention to these
>inconsistencies, because they are fundamentally problematic.
>Indeed, the entire case has been plagued by witnesses (whether
>confirmed, claimed or self-proclaimed) shifting their ground
>over time. Larry Warren is the most notorious example, but it
>applies to others too. I'm not really sure what conclusions
>Martin draws from this tendency (or whether he believes that it
>makes drawing any conclusions a fruitless quest - a justifiable
>response from somebody who places such emphasis on analysable
>specifics of hard evidence), but, for my own part, I think it
>perpetuates a concentration of debate and research in areas of
>the case that are likely to lead nowhere.

Probably. This debate has been around for a long time. People
unfamiliar witht this might get the impression from this
discussion here that Penniston made a story up for the recent
Larry King show. He did not. I think it's been 10 or 15 years
since Penniston first claimed he'd touched the object and seen
writing on it.

Halt's memo and his tape recording are by far the most important
and credible evidence and they're only slightly less sensational
than Penniston's later story. Halt certainly didn't write his
memo or make the recording in order to get on TV years later.
Even if Penniston's later claim that he touched the object is a
lie, it doesn't affect the significance of the memo or the
recording. And the fact that the witnesses' written descriptions
are more vague than what's described in the memo does indicate
that they were toning down what they put in writing, regardless
of whether Penniston was jazzing things up in his later

I agree that Penniston's more sensational description doesn't
add much to the evidence embodied in the Halt memo, but it
doesn't detract from it either. I think what people say at the
time of an incident like this should be given far more weight
than any new alleged details or revisions they make years later.
(Unless they are astronauts like Buzz Aldrin, who are allowed to
totally contradict their initial UFO descriptions years later
without anyone being impolite enough to point it out.)

>Are any List members able to shed any light on other work that
>might have been done on this? I've been trying for some time to
>get John Schuessler's book on the Cash/Landrum incident, but to
>no avail - in any case, I don't think he explores the Rendlesham
>connection any more than most Rendlesham authors have explored
>the Cash/Landrum end.

I have Schuessler's book. I think I bought it from him directly.
Amazon has a used copy for 249 dollars, which is a ridiculous
price. Whoever is trying to sell it for that much is crazy.

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