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Re: Kaku - The Physics Of Extraterrestrial

From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:54:26 +0000
Archived: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:26:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Kaku - The Physics Of Extraterrestrial

>Source: Michio Kaku's Website - New York, New York, USA


>The Physics Of Extraterrestrial Civilizations
>How advanced could they possibly be?

>by Michio Kaku

>The late Carl Sagan once asked this question, "What does it mean
>for a civilization to be a million years old?


A more pertinent question for Carl Sagan to have asked, and for
the likes of Michio Kaku and Nicolai Kardashev to consider,
would be 'How old is our civilisation?'

Nowhere in their ruminations do these guys appear to acknowledge
the distinction between a species and a civilisation. There is
an imponderably gigantic gap between the continuity of a life-
 form and the continuity of a social system that creates,
accumulates, preserves, develops and then widely and freely
disseminates useful scientific knowledge. As a species we are
still in the process of creating the first civilisation with
those characteristics, and we only have a couple of hundred
years track record on the attempt. During this latest attempt
we've distinguished ourselves by developing the means to totally
destroy our species, without simultaneously achieving the
sophistication to safeguard ourselves from that power. Whether
we like the idea or not, we remain here more by luck than

If our own example is anything to go by, the biggest challenge
isn't in harnessing ever greater forms of energy in order to
achieve galactic and then intergalactic exploration, but in
creating a civilisation of sufficient wisdom and stability to be
able to achieve technical progress without destroying itself. If
this is properly factored into the calculations that purport to
predict the likelihood of extraterrestrial intelligence, then we
may well end up with the view that the universe contains an
infinity of species and just a few dozen civilisations.

Come to think of it, an even more pertinent question for Carl
Sagan to have asked, and for the likes of Michio Kaku and
Nicolai Kardashev to consider, would be 'When will we have a

If idle speculation along these lines is to have any value at
all, I would speculate that we would be better served by
pondering the sociology of extraterrestrial physics than we are
by pondering the physics of extraterrestrial civilisations... --

Gerald O'Connell

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