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Re: Penniston NP Conference & King

From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:30:58 +0000
Archived: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:13:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Penniston NP Conference & King

>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:51:38 +0000
>Subject: Re: Penniston NP Conference & King


>I've been watching this thread with bewilderment. I expected
>Martin to get a hard time, but what I have seen surpasses any
>previous lack of understanding that I have seen all year. I kept
>out of this because I don't have the time to engage in-depth at
>the moment, but I simply can't stand by and observe what is
>going on without comment.

>Martin's points are well argued and absolutely clear to me, his
>logic is infallible. He is looking _objectively_ at the
>evidence, something which I don't believe I have seen anyone
>else doing including esteemed historian and psychological
>journal editor Richard Hall, who has gone down immensely in my

>Martin, at this point I don't know why you bother - you will
>never alter the 'tenets of the faith' based on what I have
>witnessed on this thread, you would have a better chance of
>converting Osama Bin Laden to Catholicism!

Joe, here's another way to look at what has happened to date on
this particular thread:

1. Martin raised some legitimate concerns about inconsistencies
over time in Penniston's Rendlesham story.

2. There was a lively discussion around the possible reasons for
these inconsistencies, with particular reference as to whether
they discredit Penniston's original testimony, subsequent
testimony, both, or neither.

3. A subtle shift then occurred as the focus drifted away from
discussion of the primary evidence towards a dispute as to the
quality of advocacy of the respective protagonists'
interpretation of that evidence.

4. To varying degrees, the protagonists have lost patience with
each other's conduct of that secondary dispute and are now at

5. Despite this, the central question remains as to why
Penniston's story should have changed, and what is the
significance of this change.

6. Of the central protagonists, Dick is the only one who has put
forward an unambiguous view as to why Penniston's story should
have changed, and has actually offered some evidence (albeit of
a 'character witness' status) for his view.

7. The central protagonists are now so annoyed with each other
(and very possibly themselves for becoming so annoyed) that the
thread is probably at, or close to, its useful end.

My own view? As somebody who has been following the Rendlesham
case intermittently for twenty years, and who has been perplexed
by its myriad inconsistencies, I'm saddened that what might have
been an illuminating and informative discussion should have
degenerated into a series of disagreements with personal

Gerald O'Connell

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