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Re: The Fermi Death Sentence

From: Robert Powell <rpowell.nul>
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:08:05 -0600
Archived: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:35:07 -0500
Subject: Re: The Fermi Death Sentence

>From: Terry Groff <terrygroff.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:43:09 -0600
>Subject: The Fermi Death Sentence

>Source: Nonotechnology Now


>The Fermi Death Sentence
>Mike Treder


Proposition 2 was stated as:

>2. There have been others before us, but all of them, without
>exception, have chosen - or somehow been forced - to expand in
>such a way that they are presently undetectable by our most
>sophisticated instruments.

and was dismissed with the argument:

>It seems strange to imagine, as suggested by proposition 2, that
>all extraterrestrial civilizations would, without exception,
>choose to expand or exist in such a way that they are completely
>undetectable to us. If proposition 2 is correct, it requires
>every one of potentially hundreds, thousands, or even millions
>of advanced worlds to make the exact same decision. We might
>expect some to do so, perhaps even most, but all? That defies

I would disagree strongly with the abandonment of proposition 2.

Our ability to detect extraterrestrial civilizations is
extremely limited. Only narrow band frequencies can be detected,
due to power/detection requirements, and we have decided that
1420 MHz, the frequency of molecular hydrogen, is our best bet.

It is a large leap of faith to believe that another life form,
that may be totally different from us, would communicate in the
same manner as us and also decide on the same frequency as us.

It also requires that an ET civilization purposely beam that
signal in our direction. Moreover, we need to have our antenna
directed at this star at the same time that they decide to beam
at us and send us the signal.

So in summary, an ET civilization must use radio frequencies,
they need to be tuned to 1420MHz, they need to be pointing their
broadcast at the earth, we need to be pointing our receivers at
them, and we need to be doing it all at the same time. The odds
of success are very,very, very low. Better chance of winning the

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