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Re: What Won't Be In UK UFO File Release

From: Nick Pope <contact.nul>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:56:47 -0000
Archived: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:02:45 -0500
Subject: Re: What Won't Be In UK UFO File Release


>From: Vince White <Vinceomni.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:30:29 EST
>Subject: What Won't Be In UK UFO File Release

<snip>

>If the pending file release, does indeed reflect, the previous
>claims, then one may conclude that this release is another
>cynical ploy, a temporizing gambit, and that like the US now
>closed Project Blue Book, the UK UFO desk that Nick Pope held
>1991-1994, was also a mere public relations facade. That
>sensitive UFO matters and incidents never reached that desk. Any
>exceptions, for cynical pragmatic purposes, where wide publicity
>has already occurred, being for illusory effect.

There seem to be two versions of this particular conspiracy
theory.

In the first, some sort of super-secret UFO research effort was
going on at the MoD, behind the backs of the secretariat lead
division - a sort of Second Foundation, if there any Asimov fans
out there. They got all the good cases; we were just a 'shop
window'; we were out of the loop, yada, yada. Some people
suggested DI55c were this 'Second Foundation'. But then some of
the documents got released under FOI and showed that - at least
during my tour of duty - the secretariat and the Defence
Intelligence Staff worked seamlessly on the UFO issue. Enter the
second version of this conspiracy theory.

In this second version, I'm no longer a dupe, unaware of the
mysterious 'Second Foundation': I'm the bad guy; I still work
for the MoD; I never _really_ left and here I am, complicit in a
disinformation operation, promoting the MoD's party line on open
government and breaking the story for them in the media. We
falsified the files and/or will leave out all the 'good stuff'
on aliens.

What you've done very well in your posts is to answer the
question "how will conspiracy theorists know when effective
disclosure has _really_ been made?", which was asked a couple of
days ago. The answer, it seems to me, is that until and unless
revelations are made that exactly match their belief systems,
conspiracy theorists will dismiss official revelations as lies
and disinformation. Your posts give the perfect illustration of
this mindset.

Finally - and forgive me if I missed this - but have you yet
explained what you meant in your original post when you referred
to "super secret space fleet activity"? I'm intrigued, as are
many others on this List, I'm sure.

Best wishes,

Nick Pope

http://www.nickpope.net


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