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Re: 'Hobbit' Brain Reconstruction - Shell

From: Bob Shell <bob.nul>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 03:25:43 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:53:31 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Hobbit' Brain Reconstruction - Shell


>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:15:31 -0000
>Subject: Re: 'Hobbit' Brain Reconstruction

>>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:58:00 -0500
>>Subject: Re: 'Hobbit' Brain Reconstruction

>>One only has to look at the incredible out-in-the-branches style
>>basketball-size (plus) squirrel nests (dreys), which withstand
>>high winds, snow, even ice storms, to realize brain size isn't
>>the only factor in determining intelligence.

>>If someone sat me down with a basket of twigs, I couldn't
>>accomplish that in a lifetime.

>Right Eleanor,

>Maybe once again a case of some `experts' reacting
>chauvinistically & anthropomorphically (is that a word?).

>Has anyone else read of medium-sized insects (literally pin-
>heads) being trained to do simple things - and they remember.
>That's quite apart from the question of "who's doing the
>thinking?" when a termites' nest decides to build underground to
>avoid human attention - that gets a bit scary.

Ray,

Both you and Eleanor are confusing instinct with reason. Many
birds build extremely elaborate nests but that doesn't mean that
they reasoned out how to do it, or think about it at all. Baby
birds raised by humans still "know" how to build the right nests
for their species. You cannot train them to build any other kind
of nest. Beavers build elaborate dams and lodges, but once again
the "knowledge" of how to do it is not learned, not thought out,
but is hardwired into their brains.

Thinking and learning are not the same thing. Insects, some of
them anyway, can learn simple stuff like which way to go in a T
maze to get to the food, but that's basic associative learning.
No thought to it. Flatworms can also learn T mazes, and once
they learn it is programmed into them. You cut the worm into
several pieces and each piece regenerates into a whole new worm,
all of them "remembering" which way to go in the maze.

The idea that a termite colony thinks it through to avoid human
discovery is way out there, my friend. They are instinctively
elusive. Not because of humans, but because they're good to eat,
and for millions of years those colonies that weren't elusive
enough were eaten.

Bees talk to each other by dancing, and tell each other where
good flowers are, but once again that is hard wired behavior.
Bees can learn simple stuff, but there is no evidence that they
can think. No evidence they can reason, solve problems.

Problem solving intelligence seems to be limited to a handful of
types of mammals and a few birds.


Bob Shell





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