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Re: Why We Haven't Discovered/Been Discovered By

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:16:09 -0000
Fwd Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:30:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Why We Haven't Discovered/Been Discovered By


>From: Jason Gammon <BoyintheMachine.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:08:57 EST
>Subject: Re: Why We Haven't Discovered/Been Discovered By Aliens

<snip>

>...The future is not Capitalism. Believe it or not, a modified
>form of Communism will most likely be adapted by any organic
>extraterrestrial species. Consider a futuristic society where
>people are managed by Intelligent Machines. This scenario would
>prove ideal for Communism, due to the complete removal of humans
>from positions of power, thus preventing possible corruption.
>Likewise, money as we know it will not play a part in our future
>as well. Capitalism is just not sustainable. It's likely a form
>of 'currency' based on energy surplus/deficits will be utilized.
>Such a system will of course do away with the concept of 'rarity
>as priceless', as everything will be based on the energy used to
>manufacture or obtain such item and not it's 'rarity.' (I must
>stress I'm not a Commie, just doing some unbiased intelligent
>speculation concerning the future, something which should also
>help us when applied to extraterrestrials.)


Hi Jason,

This isn't to deny your reasoning - but you've got a problem:
those two 'c' words (capitalism and communism) are both used to
decribe the same and also contradictory systems.

Face it, if a planet is fully inhabited and 'exploited' there
are only two possible alternatives: mass slavery if anyone
insists on being richer than the others, the resources are
finite don't forget (and slavery has been enforced under both
"c" word systems); or equal sharing and 'ownership' of resources
(which could have been the norm world-wide in the ancient past,
from Indus Valley, which lasted in England until the 'Enclosure
Acts' and theft of the 'commons', and which seemed to persist in
much of North America until disrupted by invading Europeans).

Returning to this thread's original claim - think the likeliest
explanation (of _all_ symptoms) was given by Profs. Jack Cohen &
Ian Stewart when referring to truly advanced beings - "We simply
would not know they were here unless they wanted us to" (from
Evolving The Alien, 2002), and later "[some aliens] might exist
only in the gaps where the human perceptual systems are in their
refractory phase and cannot register their existence." (from
What Does a Martian Look Like? The Science of Extra-terrestrial
Life').

However there's a warning note added by Jacques Vallee - "UFOs
do exist. They are astounding physical anomalies that have the
ability to affect the perception of time and space and the
consciousness of those who come close to them... the UFO
phenomenon represents evidence for other dimensions beyond
space-time" and "Somebody is going to an awful lot of trouble to
convince the world that we are threatened by beings from outer
space."

As you can probably see, there seems to be more than one
'agency' at work.


Cheers

Ray D




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