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Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:30:03 -0800
Fwd Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:38:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.miller4.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:40:59 +0000 (GMT)
>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:55:52 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life


>>Dear List,

>>This discussion is a must read for all who wish to know why
>>establishment scientists can't possibly see how UFO could be
>>from another star system.

>>Thank you, Stuart!

>Are you one of those guys Ed that could start a fight in an
>empty room?

Hi Stuart,

I don't start fights. I enjoy a good discussion. Isn't that what
you had in mind when you posted this article?

>Your comment above is a little amibiguous

I think these scientists were saying that star travel was
improbable if not impossible and they explained clearly why
they felt this was so.

>but I presume you make
>it to support your theory that "ET" in fact lives here on earth
>with us and that by implication, these learned and erudite
>scientists are agreeing with you.

They do agree with me about the improbability of star travel.
They didn't discuss ancient civilizations or convergent
evolution. I suppose they'd be skeptical just as you seem to be.

>In your dreams pal.

Even if they were skeptical, I doubt they could knock it down
scientifically and they would eventually have to agree that I am
possibly correct.

>They can't even agree amongst themselves, let alone with you.

They mostly agree. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't all
eventually agree with me.

>As Peter Ward says "In my view, life in the form of microbes or
>their equivalents is very common in the universe, perhaps more
>common than even Drake and Sagan envisioned."

Yes life is common but isolated by time and space.

>This is a broadly held view and the real issue now is how far
>away the nearest intelligent civilisation is.

Not too far by my estimate. But I understand your point.

>That it exists Ed is a given. The old numbers game.

I have no doubt that there are billions of stars, with solar
systems similar to ours, and earths with water and trees and
blue sky and hairy creatures basking on a summer day. But the
distances are just too great for casual visits.

>Which of course brings us back round to the argument about FTL

>Which in itself is a futile and arrogant waste of time. Just
>because we presume to know the extent of physics doen't mean
>that we do indeed know the extent of physics, and others may
>have taken it further. Why, they may even have learned how to
>travel through worm holes.

You can have faith that worm holes exist and that FLT is
possible but the scientific establishment disagrees. That's why
they ridicule the ETH. I have no faith that star travel is
possible, but I do know that we're being visited by crafts and
creatures of unknown origin. There is no scientific reason to
reject the theory that an earth evolved ancient civilization is
responsible. Why are you so resistant?


>Yep, just like those learned scientists.

>Still leaves your POV intact though.

Yes! Does that surprise you?


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