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Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:07:36 -0500 (EST)
Fwd Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:03:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:34:45 -0000
>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:44:20 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>>Frank Drake was invited in 2001 at the San Marino symposium in
>>Italy. He was a speaker on the first day, devoted to SETI, but
>>he stayed for the next two days - devoted to UFOs.

>>His attitude was one of skepticism, but he was obviously

>>I was at his table, at the hotel, when Nick Pope explained to
>>him how he came to be convinced of the reality of UFOs, during
>>his tenure at the MOD UFO desk. I even took their picture

>>We had another long talk in the car driving us back to the
>>airport, again with Nick, and I can assure you that he is
>>interested in UFOs.

>I haven't checked my post-meeting notes, but from memory, my
>various discussions with Frank Drake centered on the Rare Earth
>hypothesis (Ward and Brownlee's book had only recently been
>published), the extent to which the Drake Equation might need to
>be rethought in the light of discoveries of increasing numbers
>of extrasolar planets, and the theory that some apparent
>extrasolar planets might actually be brown dwarfs. We may also
>have discussed the NEO threat (I'm an Associate Member of
>Spaceguard UK).

>But as Gildas says, we certainly did discuss UFOs. While I'm
>going to keep the details of this private, Gildas is correct
>when he says that though skeptical, Frank Drake seemed genuinely

It should be noted that Drake was in the navy doing work on
electronic Counter Measures(which means he had a high level
security clearance)after his BS degree before going to Harvard
and working on his PhD.

He also was in the Naval Reserve for at least 10 years and was
in Communications Unit No. 1 in Cambridge under Donald Menzel
who was commander of that Unit. Most Naval Reservists did summer
projects for the Navy. He was encouraged in his first SETI work
(Project Oz) by MJ-12 member Lloyd  Berkner.

Stan Friedman

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