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Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:09:30 -0800
Fwd Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:19:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -


>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:25:15 +0100
>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>It surprises me that you call my article "mystical". My purpose,
>in writing it, was to criticize the rather anti-ETH attitude of
>the authors, who refer to ideas such as those of Jacques Vall=E9e.
>On the contrary, I argued in favor of the ETH, but going beyond
>the strict "nuts and bolts" viewpoint, and admitting the
>possibility of faster than light travel through "other
>dimensions".

Hi Gildas,

Yes, it's these "other dimensions" that cast a mystical shadow,
god-like and unsubstantial. I don't think other dimensions, or
time warps, or spirit guides, or shape changers are needed to
explain UFO. UFO are real in the same way that you are real.

>BTW,a complete version of it is at this address:

>http://www.ovni.ch/guest/bourdais6.htm

>I meant physical dimensions, but I also left the door open to
>the possibility of other, more "spiritual" aspects. Who knows?
>However, I suggested to leave them apart, as Jerome Clark
>suggested in a previous article.

I'd like to slam the door shut on these "more 'spiritual'
aspects" because these "aspects" are confusing matters. A little
dose of scientific reality is needed and a little less magic.

>Also, I should have mentioned in the first place the highly
>competent article by Bruce Maccabee, J. Deardorff,
>and H. Puthoff, at:

>http://brumac.8k.com/JBISpaper/JBISpaper.pdf

Yes I've read this paper. But it essentially says that UFO are a
reality and the ETH best answers the question of their genesis.
It doesn't prove that star-travel is possible, and it doesn't
mention ancient monotreme civilizations or their likelihood.

>Now I have a couple of questions about your "big picture". For
>instance, where do these "hominids" come from?

Originally they evolved here on earth somewhere in the distant
past (probably during the last hundred million years) from
either reptile or monotreme stock, through an evolutionary
mechanism known as convergence. There may have been, and still
could be, several different separate evolutions and
civilizations:


http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2007/jan/m02-006.shtml

>Where do they hide? In secret bases underground, underwater?
>Or in the solar system?

Presently they can live just about anywhere in our solar system.
When they are on earth, they live under the sea or the polar ice.

>Why do they show their fantastic crafts around the
>world?

I don't know for sure but I think some of what we see is being
staged and some, like the O'Hare sighting is caused by loss of
masking, a mistake. They try to mask themselves most of the
time. I don't think their crafts are that fantictic, but they
are very fast.

>What is their agenda?

I tend to agree with David Jacobs that there seems to be a need
for genetic exchange. They also are very concerned about
nuclear mistakes and nuclear fall out.  It may have been fall-
out from our above ground nuclear testing which caused the
Socorro and Roswell crashes in 1947.

>Excuse me if you have already
>answered that, but could you then, briefly, answer again? These
>questions also apply to the ETH but, you see, the ETH seems less
>fantastic to me. It makes more sense.

I don't mind answering as long as you're paying attention.
There's nothing at all fantistic about an ancient earth
civilization being the source of UFO. This should have been our
first consideration once we became conscious of a UFO reality.
The key to understanding this possibility is convergent
evolution and remembering that humans aren't special.


Ed





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