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Re: The Other Side Of The Fermi Paradox - Friedman

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:23:23 -0500 (EST)
Fwd Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:06:09 -0500
Subject: Re: The Other Side Of The Fermi Paradox - Friedman


>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:22:41 -0700
>Subject: Re: The Other Side Of The Fermi Paradox

>>From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:03:24 -0600
>>Subject: Re: The Other Side Of The Fermi Paradox

>>>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:20:19 -0700
>>>Subject: Re: The Other Side Of The Fermi Paradox

>>>>Source: The Space Review - Rockville, Maryland, USA

>>>>http://www.thespacereview.com/article/810/1

>>>>Monday, February 19, 2007

>>>>The Other Side Of The Fermi Paradox
>>>>by Michael Huang

>>>Indeed, this brand of razor eventually cuts through to the
>>>'simplest' hypothesis of all, the 'I Am Alone' solution: there
>>>is in fact no objective reality... all that exists is a single
>>>stream of consciousness, namely my own. Makes me feel rather
>>>silly posting this.

>>Which might remain to be just as valid as anything else
>>proposed, Sir.

>>I offer on "Fermi":

>>"Has everyone heard of Fermi's Paradox? It's a "we're alone in
>>the universe" justification invented by Dr. Fermi based on the
>>observation, and I paraphrase, that if 'they' were there, at
>>all, we would 'know' it. We don't know it. Ergo... they're not
>>there.

>>What a cleverly close looped way (or excuse) to _not_ think. We
>>would 'know it' indeed. Arrogance like that would be laughable,

><snip>

>There is, conversely, an equally insidious trap that works the
>other way: by the principle of mediocrity and least
>astonishment, as well as simple common sense, I conclude that
>intelligent life should be ubiquitous in the universe; moreover,
>We Are Alone (or worse, I Am Alone) is creepy, even terrifying.
>Ergo, UFOs _must_ be ETs, even though I have never seen one nor
>personally examined any rigorous evidence to that effect.

>Aside from a small minority with first-hand knowledge (alas, I
>am not among them), virtually everyone who adopts the ETH does
>so on a hunch. A well-reasoned and correct one in my opinion,
>but at least some of its appeal derives from how it relieves a
>fundamental discomfort.

>I must confess that the Fermi paradox continues to trouble me.
>This is primarily because I have the nagging feeling that the
>presence of ETs should be _glaringly_ obvious, leading to some
>rather contrived scenarios as to why it isn't. Suggestions are
>welcomed.


There is, conversely, an equally insidious trap that works the
other way: by the principle of mediocrity and least
astonishment, as well as simple common sense, I conclude that
intelligent life should be ubiquitous in the universe; moreover,
We Are Alone (or worse, I Am Alone) is creepy, even terrifying.
Ergo, UFOs _must_ be ETs, even though I have never seen one nor
personally examined any rigorous evidence to that effect.

Aside from a small minority with first-hand knowledge (alas, I
am not among them), virtually everyone who adopts the ETH does
so on a hunch. A well-reasoned and correct one in my opinion,
but at least some of its appeal derives from how it relieves a
fundamental discomfort.

I must confess that the Fermi paradox continues to trouble me.
This is primarily because I have the nagging feeling that the
presence of ETs should be _glaringly_ obvious, leading to some
rather contrived scenarios as to why it isn't. Suggestions are
welcomed.


Enrico Fermi did not say there are no aliens. He and his
companions had noted that it should only take a few million
years to colonize the galaxy once somebody got started. He was
known for using questions as a teaching tool.

There have obviously been a lot of answers. Obviously one answer
could be they are all over the place, but pretty much leave us
alone because we are a primitive society whose major activity is
tribal warfare.

"We have let your leaders know that we won't tolerate their
leaving the solar system to practice their brand of friiendship.
Meanwhile we will do what we please. We have never acted as
badly towards earthlings as they have acted towards their own
kind"

Clearly the simplest solution is that because our civilization
is so young compared to the age of the planet, and of the
neighborhood, we can't possibly be treated as equals anymore
than I treat the squirrels in my yard as equals.


Stan Friedman




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