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Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:36:52 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:41:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:25:58 -0800
>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:20:39 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>>>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:09:30 -0800
>>>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life


>>>>Now I have a couple of questions about your "big picture". For
>>>>instance, where do these "hominids" come from?

>>>Originally they evolved here on earth somewhere in the distant
>>>past (probably during the last hundred million years) from
>>>either reptile or monotreme stock, through an evolutionary
>>>mechanism known as convergence. There may have been, and still
>>>could be, several different separate evolutions and

>>I am sorry to have to tell you that your theory is totally
>>unbelievable to me, for many reasons, but let me give at least
>>two (I am probably repeating previous discussions, which I may
>>have missed):

>>First, there is a history of evolution on Earth, and your story
>>does not fit at all into it.

>You have a misunderstanding of the history of evolution. There
>are huge gaps in our knowledge, with many gaps millions of years
>long. We have only a crude understanding of what went on during
>those misty years, when there was only one continent.

>I have to discontinue this discussion for a week while I take a
>short vacation.

>>Secondly, if such a highly advanced civilization had ever
>>existed on Eath, it would have left traces. To build UFOs it
>>would have had to be more advanced than us, and be the fruit of
>>a vast development, of science, technology and industry, over
>>centuries and millenaries. There is no trace of that today (not
>>to be confused with alleged traces of ET visits).

>"If Man were to vanish from the face of the Earth today, his
>footprint on the planet would linger for the mere blink of an
>eye in geological terms. Within hours, nature would begin to
>eradicate its impact. In 50,000 years all that would remain
>would be archaeological traces. Only radioactive materials and a
>few man-made chemical contaminants would last longer - an
>invisible legacy..."


There's no way of knowing that. It's a statement, not proof of

New York, London, Paris, Tokyo, Moscow, Toronto and LA for
example would not that quickly pass away. They might crumble but
the mounds of rubble would be around for much more than 50,000
years. Nor would the quarries quickly disappear, or the open pit
mines, the highway systems and the billions of tons of glass and
plastics. What's the half-life of Chernobyl?

This isn't ancient Egypt we are talking about, a place built of
stone, populated by 50'000-100,000 people. There are trinkets
now being found in strata of 250,000 years ago-little strings of
beads and tools used to work these things from small tribes
living near rivers or what were ancient rivers. The reason they
are found is their likelihood of being there if ancient man
existed in that area. The same would apply if someone was
looking for habitations millions of years from now around the
area we now know as Manhattan for example. Millions of years
from now there would be ample evidence of its existence should
some surviving species at our present level went looking for it.

There is no impact on the landscape such as we have made now.
But I'm asked to believe that some other cousin species has been
existing with us for thousands or hundreds of thousands of years
without impacting the landscape, with a technology that just
happened without going through the long process that we
ourselves have gone through.

It seems to me the vague tracings that have been found that
indicate some familiar technology is most probably the result of
some tampering by visitors from "off-planet" than some home-
grown species that seems to have no other agenda than to just to
screw with our heads.

Don Ledger

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