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Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:59:11 -0500 (EST)
Fwd Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life -


>From: Bob Shell <bob.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:41:14 -0500
>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

>>From: Theo Paijmans <th.paijmans.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:49:18 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Great Debate About Frequency Of ET Life

><snip>

>>That is, if this hypothetical pre-human civilistion had followed
>>the same technological evolutionary path as we do - and, since
>>this pre-human civilisation is hypothetical, we don't know. We
>>could speculate that this civilisation had followed a different
>>evolutionary technological path which in the course of a
>>hypothetical timespan of thousands of years, would have yielded
>>a radically different technology. Perhaps one that, given our
>>current culture, would seem like magic to us.

>Just imagine how our present technology would present to an
>early Cro-Magnon man! I think it is highly unlikely that a
>previous technologically advanced civilization would have
>followed the same technological evolution as ours. Just think
>how many of our major discoveries were happy accidents by
>someone looking for something else entirely. Technologies
>obviously are possible that we haven't even gotten a whiff of
>yet.

>Highly advanced technology demonstrated by UFOs and their
>occupants look like magic to us because they use technology we
>haven't discovered. That says nothing about where they were
>discovered.  We know there is life on this planet. No matter how
>much we theorize, we do not know that there is life anywhere
>else in the universe. So it is really a stretch to say that the
>technology of UFOs has to be ET.

><snip>

>>In that sense any opinion on UFOs as hard, technological
>>constructs is severely marred by two things: our inability to
>>envision radically different technolgies that fall outside our
>>evolutionary path and scope - as witnessed by the discussion
>>above - and our limitations in knowledge as to any facts about
>>extraterrestrial civilisations. To my knowledge we still have no
>>evidence at all for the existence of such an extraterrestrial
>>civilisation.

>Absolutely. We have no evidence for ET civilization, so why
>assume that it exists? Why jump to outer space when the answer
>may be right here under our feet?

>I think it is obvious that we will see the creators of the UFOs
>when 'they' decide to show themselves to us. Until they decide
>to let us in on the secret, we simply don't know who or what
>they are.


Bob,

They have been showing themselves to us. About 16% of Ted
Phillips thousands of trace cases involve reports of small
beings. There are thousands of abduction cases... ditto.

NARCAP has collected thousands of reports from pilots. It seems
to me you are mixing two entirely different questions.

I have no problem at all with there having been many advanced
civilizations on Earth over the past Billion years that have
come to a sad end.

I can't see any indication that in parallel with our growth and
development over the past 10 thousand years, other unknown to
us, very advanced civilizations have developed in secret with
incredible technology completely divorced  from our known world.

A few unknown non-high tech tribes in the jungles, sure. They
don't build large flying machines that can go up up and away.


Stan Friedman






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