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The '06 O'Hare UFO [was: In the sky! A bird? A

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:06:26 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 09:03:54 -0500
Subject: The '06 O'Hare UFO [was: In the sky! A bird? A

>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:57:16 -0500
>Subject: Re: In the sky! A bird? A plane? A... UFO?

>>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:03:16 EST
>>Subject: Re: In the sky! A bird? A plane? A... UFO?

>>>Source: The Chicago Tribune - Illinois, USA


>>>Published January 1, 2007

>>>In the sky! A bird? A plane? A... UFO?
>>>Jon Hilkevitch

>>>United Airlines denies its workers filed reports about
>>>saucerlike object hovering at O'Hare

>>>It sounds like a tired joke - but a group of airline employees
>>>insist they are in earnest, and they are upset that neither
>>>their bosses nor the government will take them seriously.

>>Wow! This story is literally at the top of the page of the
>>popular drudgereport.com

>>On his site, Drudge lists 'video' as the headline.

>>With a major airport I'm quite sure there are several video
>>cameras working at all times and this incident with multiple
>>witnesses, perhaps even passersby many with cell phone cameras
>>etc. someone should have caught something.

>>I believe Jeff Rense had Peter Davenport on his program covering
>>this story. If anyone knows the real deal it will be Davenport.

>I'm glad this received some press, and it's been under
>investigation by researchers connected with CUFOS and the Fund.

>The search for cell phone images, video surveillance images, and
>radar images has been ongoing and this is thought to be a very
>interesting case.

Hi Steve, Greg, Bruce , etc.

Dick Haines has been investigating this case since its
occurrence on November 7/06. The Newspaper report at least
recognizes much of what happened there. I corresponded with Dick
off and on about the event and sent him material about ATC,
tower, runways and ground control as recently as yesterday.

There are two towers, incidentally, at O'Hare and ground control
occupies the older O'Hare tower. Both towers can see the entire
field at their elevations. However the new tower at 250 feet AGL
will be able to see the a newer runway being constructed on the
back side of the terminal building.

There is mention of the ground maintenance teams and a pilot in
a airliner on the ground on the apron having sighted the object.
This being the case they both would have been talking to O'Hare
ground control rather than the tower, and ground control would
have had a good eyeball on the object as well unless the object
was directly overhead of them.

The explanation by the FAA mouthpiece is absurd. There was no
reason to contact ATC because they aren't even in the loop at
O'Hare. Traffic in the O'Hare zone is handled by O'Hare Tower
and handed off to ATC once the traffic has cleared O'Hare's
zone. For ATC to be smug about it, joke about a potential hazard
shows a lack of concern for safety at O'Hare. Hovering over
O'Hare at 1,700 feet is a pretty safe spot for all but
helicopters that might be launching because there would be no
traffic flying through that space _unless_ there was some need
for an overshoot by some aircraft landing or an emergency of
some sort.

ATC at O'Hare would not be able to paint radar that close in to
the field. It would be a cluttered mess. Transponders on the
field are on standby or off because there are so many aircraft
on the field that the centers of their scopes would be a white
mass of xponder returns. The actual return is about 1/4 inch
square with the added information bar. Raw skin paints at the
field would result in a cluster of overlapping dots and quite

The best bet for witnesses from the FAA is the tower personnel
and ground personnel who themselves are controllers and often
shift back and forth and who are in constant contact with one
another. At smaller airports ground and tower share the tower
facility and often when things are slow perform both duties.
Chicago O'Hare has an antiquated radar facility which frequently
breaks down, the last time was on Dec.15/06.

I can understand the FAA making light of this and even the
airlines because they don't want anything else deterring people
from using airliners, but ATC is different. They are basically
ridiculing ground personnel and pilot reports of a potential
hazard at one of the biggest airports in the world. ATC ignores
this hazard on a frequent basis. There are potentially hundreds
of quality witnesses to this event, but many will keep their
mouths shut because of just this childish attitude of ATC and the

I'm preparing a response-have been since yesterday, but waiting
for more detail-to Jon Hilkevitch. I think he did a pretty good
job of getting the story out there without the usual snideness
portrayed by other reporters, and it looks like he is going to
continue with his investigation via the FOIA.

Don Ledger

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