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Re: The 'Funny Part' - Friedman

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:19:45 -0400
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:31:45 -0500
Subject: Re: The 'Funny Part' - Friedman

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:27:58 -0600
>Subject: Re: The 'Funny Part'

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:45:37 +0000
>>Subject: Re: The 'Funny' Part

>>>From: Robert Barrow <rbarr.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:38:10 -0500
>>>Subject: The 'Funny' Part

>>>How curious that we embrace our idiocy so fondly and so quickly
>>>when we crave a solution to anesthetize the inquiring mind.

>>The funny part is that when someone offers an opinion, if it
>>doesn't meet the 'craft from elsewhere in the universe' the
>>opiner is labeled a "debunker". Thereby, cutting off any dialog.

>To anyone who knows the long, sorry history of UFOphobia
>(starting Project Grudge's inept investigations and Menzel's
>fanciful theories), the remarks above are astonishingly inept.

>Apparently we are to believe "debunking" is a nonexistent
>phenomenon imagined solely by ufologists looking for a bogeyman.

>The problem with this notion - besides its inherent silliness -
>is that good ufologists over the years have solved a fair
>number of ostensibly puzzling reports. So ufologists are
>debunkers? And it is ufologists - you know, the
>pseudoscientists, the cultists, the crazies, the true believers
>(just a few of the standard epithets thrown our way over the
>decades) - who are the name-callers?

>>Ufologists could take a clue from the astrophysicists who are
>>enlisting scientists from many different fields to develop solid
>>theories about possible life on other planets - to examine the
>>evidence so far at hand.

>And with UFOs taken out of the equation before the inquiry
>begins, what evidence would that be?

>Jerry Clark

These are the same people - more likely astrobiologists - who got
it all wrong about the surface of Mars... no water ever, right?

The atmosphere of Venus - tropical paradise, steamy jungle,

The surfaces of the satellites of Jupiter and Saturn,
etc., ad nauseum.

They know essentially nothing about planets outside our solar

I presume the SETI cultists will help by dragging in the Drake
Equation which of course ignores migration and colonization,
makes ridiculous assumptions about the ET State of the Art, etc.

Certainly the debunkers of the O'Hare case have followed the
rules of

a] don't bother me with the facts my mind is made up;

b] what the public doesn't know, I won't tell them; and

c] do one's research by proclamation, investigation is too much

Stan Friedman

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