From: Robert Barrow <rbarr.nul> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:49 -0500 Fwd Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:38:57 -0500 Subject: Haut Roswell Interview By Connors & Balthaser Wendy Connors' Sound Archive Conversation in Roswell with Walter Haut, March, 2000 (Conducted by Wendy Connors & Dennis Balthaser) Copyright 2007 (Jan) by Wendy A. Connors Total running time 46 min;43 sec, CD audio format To order inquire at: http://www.fadeddiscs.com/audiohistoryseries.html Reviewed by Robert Barrow Walter Haut was the public information officer stationed, on that fateful day in July of 1947, at the somewhat obscure Roswell Army Air Field in New Mexico, performing rather uneventful duties on a daily basis. Then "the crash" occurred and Lt. Haut and numerous officials and residents of the Roswell area instantly became historically significant forever. The lieutenant, however, was a little more notable than some, because he wrote the press release that quickly tipped the world press off to the alleged recovery of a flying saucer at the ranch of Mack Brazel. Haut died in December of 2005 at age 83, but fortunately researchers Wendy Connors and Dennis Balthaser had a cherished opportunity to sit down and interview Haut about what has become known as "the Roswell Incident" of which he was an integral part, in 2000. Overwhelmingly, but for a few seconds of really insignificant audio distortion in which conversation remains intact, the recording is clear, vibrant and sounding as if made last week. As the interview begins, we discover a man of known integrity whose military career began during WW II. Recipient of The Purple Heart, Haut had been involved in bombing Japan and at one point sustained an injury during a flight. His adventures extended to dropping test instrumentation directly into experimental atomic bombing areas and, though certain his flights were beyond range of lethal radiation exposure when bombs exploded, he did recall feeling aftershocks. Years after the war, Haut was sent to the Roswell base, and here in the interview ensues a discussion of his relationship with Col. William Blanchard, Roswell's commanding officer whom he respected implicitly. One day in the summer of 1947, Blanchard instructed Haut to write a press release for the news services. "(Blanchard) didn't come to me," explains Haut. "He buzzed me on the telephone and said, Walt, I want a press release, here's what I want in it. We have in our possession a flying saucer. It was picked up on a ranch north of Roswell. . .and was taken to higher headquarters, which was General (Roger) Ramey." When asked what happened out on the ranch, Haut discusses the saucer's disposition via extreme secrecy. He had told the interviewers on a previous occasion that Gen. Ramey lied -- the thing that crashed was not a weather balloon, the new explanation that was run up to the press later the same day. When asked how it came to be that a balloon was suddenly substituted for a downed disc, Haut responds, "I would assume that (Ramey and Blanchard) got together when there was nobody else around and decided the best way to do that was this -- let's get the news media in here and let's just tell them our side, and let it go at that." Lt. Haut states he did see one small body, presumably from the disc, from about 20 feet away in a hangar. The body, near the disc (or pieces of it) itself, was partially covered with a tarp. "I would venture a guess," replies Haut when asked about disc size, "of a diameter of somewhere around 25 feet." As for the body, "It was a relatively small body, comparable to a 10 or 11-year-old child. It was pretty well beat up." Pressed further about whether there was only one body present, he answers, "I don't think so. I thought there were several bodies." The working relationship between public information officer Haut and intelligence officer Jesse Marcel -- Marcel visited the crash site, Haut did not -- is discussed. The two men worked together and their families lived in close proximity to one another, but the men weren't terribly close outside of work. "I had calls from the news media," Haut states in reference to his contact with Marcel, "how did Marcel know how to fly it?" The fact that one man was a PIO and the other on the intelligence side of the military equation meant that neither conversed in depth about the Roswell disc vs. balloon because, according to Haut, Marcel would have said he couldn't discuss the subject in his position. As forthright as Haut becomes during the interview, one cannot logically escape the impression that he isn't telling everything he knows, and at times he seems to avoid questions asked repeatedly in progressively pointed terms. He does provide an interesting response to Connors' question regarding what he thinks crashed at Roswell, since he has told her previously that it definitely wasn't a balloon: "I don't really know. I feel that there has been information released that maybe shouldn't be released. I don't want to talk about a lot of the details. I put out a press release that Col. Blanchard told me what he wanted in the press release, and I went into town and gave it to the news media, went home and ate lunch." Dennis Balthaser and Connors inquire multiple times about the hows and whys of the incredible change of explanations from flying disc to weather balloon. At one point, Haut responds, "I would guess that information came to Ramey and he was told to go ahead and put it out at such-and-such a time. I'm sure they had this orchestrated pretty well." Frankly, Haut makes occasional declarations that cause us double-takes, particularly when we know that he knows things he's not exactly ready to spell out in depth, such as this curious remark: "In some instances, I think the news media has got to let go of the information and not try and push it through." What? What is that? Perhaps Haut refers to national security issues -- or maybe to something far more involved. At another point, unexpectedly, Haut attempts weakly to draw the maybe-the-saucer-was-made-by-the-USA argument into the mix, probably making a point that never bears fruit here, but, refreshingly, he does admit he doesn't know everything -- for instance, when Connors states that Roswell was doing work on remote-controlled drone aircraft back then, Haut seems surprised and admits being in the dark about this project. Again trying to sort out the facts about who authorized the initial press release, Connors summarizes: "So, what you're saying is that there's a high probability that General Ramey himself approved to Blanchard to go ahead and release the story?" "Quite possibly," replies Haut. Regarding the balloon aspect of the Roswell see-saw of explanations, an entry at the nicap.org site entitled "The Roswell Story" provides the following interesting paragraph: [The late General Thomas DuBose was a colonel and General Ramey's chief of staff at Eighth Air Force Headquarters in Forth Worth, Texas, in 1947. Before his death in 1992, General DuBose testified that he himself had taken the telephone call from General Clements McMullen at Andrews Army Air Field in Washington, D.C., ordering the coverup. The instructions were for General Ramey to concoct a "cover story" to "get the press off our backs."] An inquiry about concerns that at least three suggested disc crash sites have been postulated causes Haut to respond, "there have been too many mentioned." As the interview concludes, the question of photos comes up. He claims never to have observed debris field, disc or body photos, or ever learned of their existence, but Walter Haut assumed that photos exist nevertheless.
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