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Of Hynek Pilots & O'Hare

From: Ray Stanford <dinosaurtracker.nul>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:49:10 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:02:55 -0500
Subject: Of Hynek Pilots & O'Hare

An Allen Hynek Interlude

[Non-subscriber post --ebk]

Although I'm not on the UFO UpDates mailing List, I still read
the more interesting posts to it, and rather regularly.

With the recent List-talk about pilot-sighting censorship and
pilot fears to talk, I thought the List might enjoy a short
account of an Allen Hynek interlude I experienced during one of
his considerable number of visits with me since we met for the
first time in Socorro, April, 1964. Whether it was while I was
still living in Phoenix, after I moved to San Antonio, Texas
(1969), or after my project using electronic and optical
instruments to monitor and record UFOs got really set up in
Austin, I do not recall.

Well, after all the years, the quotes may not be absolutely
verbatim, but wherever it happened, I had met Allen at some
airport, and after his luggage had  arrived on the turnstile,
being the younger, I asked him, "Allen, let me grab the heavier
part of that stuff."

Allen grinned in a funny way that puzzled me, but he nodded at
his briefcase and said, "In that case, Ray, better grab my brief

I probably looked at him like I thought he was out of his mind
until I grabbed the briefcase handle and started to lift it. I
couldn't believe the weight!  That little case felt as though it
might have weighed over fifty pounds, so I exclaimed, "Allen,
have you started collecting nickel-iron meteorites' like me?!"

"Wait, Ray," Allen said, grinning and stroking his beard,  "Just
sit down there for a minute and look inside it."

I did exactly that and was startled, because it was crammed full
with heavy, fancy, cut-glass bottles, full of expensive looking
(judging by the fancy bottles) whiskey!

"My gosh, Allen, I hope you haven't started drinking heavily!" I
declared in utter bewilderment.

"My gosh no!", Allen replied quickly, "You see, when I fly out
of here, I'm heading for a meeting with a bunch of pilots, whom
I hope to get loosened up enough to talk in an uninhibited way
about their sightings."

I told him I'd buy that story.  Not a drinking man, but a
thinking (ahead) man!

Next time Allen visited, I asked him if the technique was
successful. "Well," he replied, smiling "It seemed to help with
those few who got carried away enough to keep at it."

Well, Richard Haines, I know you're not on this List, but in
case you end up reading this and the interviewing gets tough in
the O'Hare case, are you Listening? :)

Ray Stanford

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