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Re: FAA's Credibility & Veracity Over O'Hare -

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:59:20 -0000
Fwd Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:18:09 -0500
Subject: Re: FAA's Credibility & Veracity Over O'Hare -

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:11:38 -0400
>Subject: Re: FAA's Credibility & Veracity Over O'Hare

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:56:34 -0000
>>Subject: Re: FAA's Credibility & Veracity Over O'Hare


>>Astronomers, meteorologists (weather people), other scientists
>>and folk in 'administration' have no experience or knowledge of
>>flying and so should be ignored. But they're the only ones asked
>>or allowed to speak, because their careers are controlled by


>The authorities [FAA,TC, CAA - just to name three] can't take
>your license or flight privileges away from you because you have
>reported a UFO but the company can, or the forces can. [Note-air
>force/navy/army pilots don't get licenses]. Years ago a pilot
>could go to prison for 10 years and/or pay a $10,000 fine if it
>was found out that a CIRVIS report made by the pilot to ATC was
>then blabbed to the media by the pilot. But loss of job works
>just as well. That's why ATC jokes about it at O'Hare and the
>pilots go underground.

Hi Don & List,

I was provoked to send that first post by experience of pilots'
common sense and rather amazing coolness under stress.

One small example was a military flight en route to Singapore
(carrying 'my' mil cargo, plus me - think I was a sergeant - and
some other blokes), when we were looking for our next landing,
at night, over middle of Indian Ocean.

Below was many thousands of feet of densely packed thunder
clouds, and presumably below that was the Indian Ocean
containing one tiny island (surrounded - in my imagination - by
close-packed sharks).

'Control' couldn't help - they had total cloud cover and
couldn't see us (maybe not on radar either). I happened to be in
the cockpit att. for a chat and stuff, so the 'Skipper' (the RAF
captain and main pilot) told me to take over the cloud radar and
give him 'left or right' calls if I could see any clear lanes
through the mass of thunder-heads. So we descended, but not too
fast or too far (because - if fuel ran out, we might have to try
to make distance), and it all got very quiet and I personally
got rather tense.

But the skipper carried on chatting, while turning and wheeling,
and all eyes in the cockpit - except mine - were looking out and

Eventually we (they) saw a light which, although immediately
lost again, gave us the bearing.

Yup, we finally landed successfully and all had a beer (me more
than one) to relax.

Several more experiences like that (some which I can't report)
taught me that piloting was about rigid self-control and
coolness of judgment, none of which are noticeable talents of
men-in-suits, administrators, politicos, media-men or on-demand


Ray D

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