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Re: FM Radio Gives Away Aliens? - Sawyer

From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:14:55 -0800
Fwd Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:53:59 -0500
Subject: Re: FM Radio Gives Away Aliens? - Sawyer


>From: Mark Turner <markt.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:29:34 -0500
>Subject: Re: FM Radio Gives Away Aliens?

>>From: Viktor Golubik <Diverge247.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:40:33 EST
>>Subject: Re: FM Radio Gives Away Aliens?

>>If alien spacecraft are maneuvering within our telemetry systems
>>here on Earth, then it may be the unintended (default) radio
>>wave transmissions we should be after... perhaps just one
>>telltale signature of their interaction with our atmosphere and
>>their propulsive systems.

><snip>

>>Such spectrum analyzers are available for purchase and with the
>>right antennas and configuration could be very sensitive.
>>However, what's the likelihood that we (government outsiders
>>with no budget) could confidently sort the known clutter from
>>the unknown signature with precision?

>Viktor, it sounds like this is quite possible, and far less
>expensive than you think. See the following links for details.

>I think this may be an excellent way to track alien spacecraft.

>Super-Radar, Done Dirt Cheap:

>http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_42/b3854113.htm

Well, maybe. I note that the Business Week article says "Celldar
will detect the movement of ground vehicles and determine
whether cell-phone signals are _bouncing_ off a tank, truck, or
armored personnel carrier" and that "it 'sees' only radio waves
echoing off _hard_ surfaces". This is a critical issue. If
celldar or its' derivatives can only detect things that have
hard surfaces from which to bounce a signal off of, then an
excruciatngly relevant question arises in the context of whether
there is any possibility of its being used for UAP/UFO
detection.

Like, will it detect stealth craft, whether air or land-based?
No, I don't think so. Like radar, which requires an emitter
source and detects the return of said signal back to a receiver,
celldar, although not needing a detectable receiver, seems to
require a non-stealthy, hard surface to interrupt the radio
waves in order to detect the object being surveilled.

So, if celldar can't detect stealth craft, which we've already
had flying for over 25 years with older human technology, do you
think it could detect a UFO, even if it's made of some kind of
alloyed metal, if the design and shaping of the surfaces of any
such possible craft, made with non-human technology at least
hundreds or thousands of years in advance of our own, is
factored in? Extremely doubtful. Well, what about the effects on
the atmosphere itself, where even if you couldn't detect such a
craft, the idea of detecting its' "wake" or disturbance in the
atmosphere itself may allow detection? Equally unlikely, as
there may be other technologies associated with such an "alien"
craft that modify or reduce that effect at least to the degree
that is required to evade detection or movement tracking.

I mean, come on, we are talking about UFO detection. If "they"
can get here from where/when/what ever they come from, and have
been able to avoid providing definitive proof of their presence
through all prior forms of detection (except perhaps when they
"want" to provide some "display", like the RB-47 case) what are
the odds this newer technology will provide a reliable,
practical way of accomplishing this goal? Slim to none. Well,
what about those cases stretching back for more than 50 years
that _have_ been detected by radar? Um, maybe there was some
"intent" behind those cases to allow that kind of tracking to
occur - even then, they seem to be able to disappear and
reappear at will whenever and where ever they "want" when chased
or otherwise observed. Don't get me wrong - since this is just
speculation, the technology ought to be tried, because you never
know what you might achieve until you try it out in the real
world. But given the history and known chameleon-like
"morphology" of prior UFO incidents, I doubt this will be
effective. And if celldar doesn't work, at least we can build on
these ever more esoteric technologies to perhaps evolve a system
of systems which may, someday, give us a means of detecting and
tracking some kinds of UFO's.

Ever get the feeling that, whether UAP/UFOs are "real" in the
sense that they may represent some form of non-human
intelligence or conciousness, part of the "game" is to cause us
to strive even more strongly to develop the means, whether
technological or not, to find out what they are?

One of the net results, or possible intents, is to advance the
evolution of the means, whether technical, biological, or
otherwise to understand the nature of not just the phenomena,
but reality itself. I'm only guessing, but that in and of
itself, even if there are no non-human intelligences involved,
affects our perceptions of reality, and has a direct but subtle
effect on our evolution as human beings and the technologies we
develop to extend and enhance our capabilities to "know better",
as it were. Here's to hoping that may be the case. This is why,
in a way, I sure hope the military and intelligence communities
have _some_ kind of attention paid to and do advanced research
on the phenomena, even if it's in secret, since to ignore this
issue and some of the possible repercussions of the phenomena
has possibly crucial national security implications. Remember
the old NSA draft paper that was declassified regarding
"surprise" material? Read that and you'll get part of my drift.


Steve




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