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Re: A Martian Genocide? - Tarbell

From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 11:26:51 -0600
Archived: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:46:08 -0400
Subject: e: A Martian Genocide?

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:36:52 -0300
>Subject: Re: A Martian Genocide?

>>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:01:49 -0600
>>Subject: Re: A Martian Genocide?

>>>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:10:43 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: A Martian Genocide?

>>>>From: Nick Balaskas <Nikolaos.nul>
>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:12:42 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
>>>>Subject: Re: A Martian Genocide?


>>>Give it up Nick. Of course we're going to go rampaging through
>>>the Universe when we're able to, killing and stealing and
>>>fighting. Its what we do.

>>>Setting your Biblical scenario aside and wiping the slate clean,
>>>wouldn't it be real fun if we were the most intelligent species
>>>around for billions of light years.

>>Well, our budding planetary crusaders had certainly better
>>_hope_ that's the case, if they intend to just go on doing "what
>>we do".

>What makes you think what we do is any different than what they
>do? Do you have inside information? At any rate Mars is less
>than one grain of sand on the beach of the universe. Restricting
>ourselves to this one planet is homogenocide and frankly pretty
>stuffy thinking.

Hi Don,

If what they do is no different than what we do, I think we can
consider the Fermi Paradox pretty well resolved... don't hold
your breath waiting for someone to show up.

I say again, consider how and why it is that remaining here
would be "homogenocide". Dispense with the trivial point that
Earth will eventually become uninhabitable by 'natural' causes,
e.g., the red giant phase of our sun or some other nearby
cataclysm. This is true of all planets, if not most of
interstellar space. Is it not clear that the predicament for
human civilization has much more immediacy than that?

By every measure, as a species we have been rushing headlong
_away_ from equilibrium with our ecosystem. Is there some reason
to think that our arrival on a new planet is going to change
that? From the viewpoint of intelligent beings already present
(whether indiginous or not), which term do you suppose applies:
migration, or infection?

If you assume (I do not) that 'they' are essentially similar to
us in both attitude and behavior, we can certainly expect the
equivalent of a fogging with insecticide if we make bold to
expand our borders, and probably even if we stay put. Just ask
your local endangered species.

That "stuffy" enough?


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