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Re: Mantle To Speak In Roswell - Kaeser

From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:50:30 -0400
Archived: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:03:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Mantle To Speak In Roswell - Kaeser

>From: Santiago Yturria Garza <syturria.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:09:01 +0000
>Subject: Re: Mantle To Speak In Roswell



>With all due respect I agree with John Rimmer.

>The Alien Autopsy Film controversy ended with the confession of
>both Santilli and Schoefield plus their accomplices in the fraud
>John Humphreys and the fourth one whose name I don't remember.
>All of them appeared on public TV confessing the hoax including
>the faked cameraman interview with such cynisism its clear they
>should not be trusted in any way ever again.

>Their 'restoration' is as false as the film itself and I don't
>think there is now a single individual who still belives what
>this couple claim. Santilli and Shoefield commited a fraud for
>money and that's a fact that can't be denied.

>I've seen the film frames that you mentioned, two frames
>actually. One is a poor quality blurred image saturated in blue
>color of an alleged autopsy room where the alleged alien's head
>is almost visible. I find this image very similar if not
>identical to the black and white faked film but just blurred and
>colored blue. Very bad evidence if this is intended to prove
>anything at all.

>The second film frame is worse. Just a black and white image of
>two alleged navy officers faces, that's all. No additional
>information about this one. I ask you, how does this single
>frameprove anything related to their story? Film frames may
>be provided from any source from any time period and still will
>prove nothing. But you are trusting Santilli again and now you
>will try to revive this dead for good faked Alien Autopsy story
>just to sell your new book am I right?

>I belive you are a contradictory man yourself, Philip Mantle.
>Sometimes you accuse Santilli of being a cynical cheat but now
>you are releasing your new book you propose Santilli may have
>been telling a true story after all? Very convenient.

>I don't believe Santilli and Shoefield and I don't believe you and
>your book. I don't believe this alleged 'new evidence' of the two
>provided film frames. I don't believe the even worst argument of
>the "film restoration" and certainly will not believe any
>subsequent story additions, updates, new revelations, etc. etc.

>The Alien Autopsy-Santilli-Shoefield affair will remain in
>history as an infamous act of fraud perpetrated by a group
>of individuals.

>Think about it.


I believe you are complaining to the wrong person, or perhaps
you're just tired of the AA 'film' and what's it's done to
ufology during the past decade.

There is no indication that Philip has any faith in anything
that Ray Santilli has to say, but it's true that Ray is still
trying to cling to his fantasy.  Wouldn't it be good for someone
to publish an overview of the entire matter?

I believe there is controversy surrounding the entire AA 'film'
affair, with numerous people telling their version of the story.
I'm not sure that Philip's book will resolve all the questions,
but perhaps it will help.


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