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Re: The Walter G. Haut Affidavit - Rudiak

From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:31:15 -0700
Archived: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:48:43 -0400
Subject: Re: The Walter G. Haut Affidavit - Rudiak

>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:18:58 -0700
>Subject: Re: The Walter G. Haut Affidavit

>Fellow Listers,

>>Extracted from:

>>Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the 60-Year Cover-Up
>>Thomas J. Carey and Donald R. Schmitt


>First I question how the affidavit was done in regard to
>Walter's declaration.

>When Dennis & Wendy interviewed Walter in 2000, he was often
>confused and had difficulty remembering various things during
>the session(s); in my unprofessional opinion it appeared to me
>he was exhibiting the initial stages of either Alzheimer's
>and/or dementia.

I interviewed Walter Haut in August 2001. He did not appear
confused at all or exhibiting any signs of Alzheimer's or
dementia. He claimed he couldn't remember clearly what had
happened over 50 years ago and anybody who said they could
wasn't being truthful. Walter also pulled the "I don't remember"
routine on many others for at least a dozen years before this.
It wasn't a matter of him not remembering, it was Walter
deliberately withholding information.

As you point out, Walter was already discussing the ship and
bodies (plus Ramey flying in for the morning meeting) back in
2000 when Dennis & Wendy interviewed him. So if he was still
clear-headed in 2001 when I spoke to him, he was probably
clearheaded in 2000 when he first began speaking about these

>That said, he did in fact (in response to a question) answer in
>the affirmative regarding seeing (substantial) wreckage and or

Yep. Also mentioned a craft.

>I haven't viewed the tape recently, and am relying on my  written
>notes from when I did, but will be reviewing it again today.
>According to my notes, I counted _4_ times where he said he
>didn't see anything!

According to what Dennis told me, Walter didn't realize he was
being taped when he first spilled the beans about the bodies and
craft, but when he did, went back to his "I don't remember"
routine for the remainder of the interview.

His interview with Wendy and Dennis, like his affidavit, was not
to be released until after his death. The point being, any
confessions were not to be made public while he was alive.

>During an appearance on Larry King in 2003, Walter, again,
>appeared very confused and in this instance could not finish
>the segment. Prior to unexpectedly exiting the interview, King
>asked, "Did you, Walter, ever see any of the wreckage?"

>Walter replied, "No."

Again, he wasn't going to admit to it in public while he was

>As one can see the affidavit which no doubt was signed by
>Walter Haut was written in a very clear and concise manner
>including times, dates, names etc. From what I have seen myself
>e.g., the interview by Wendy & Dennis, as well as the public
>appearance, albeit brief, this was a man that would have much
>difficulty - to be polite - in accomplishing this task.

He was definitely fine when I met him in August 2001. His
condition when he filled out his affidavit in December 2002 I
can't say, but he was already saying the same things to Wendy
and Dennis in 2000. His story also has much corroboration from
other sources, such as the bodies being in the base hangar, or
the craft being hauled to the hangar on a lowboy truck, or the
craft/body site being north of Roswell. There is nothing in his
affidavit we haven't already heard from other sources (except
for perhaps Ramey being at the morning meeting).

>So, I am very curious as to how this declaration was performed;
>was it prepared by someone else - perhaps Schmitt - and Walter
>just signed it? Were questions asked in sequence, and he
>answered them? I think this paramount in evaluating the worth of
>the affidavit.

Don't know. Are you accusing Schmitt of putting words in
Walter's mouth? That's a very serious accusation if that is what
you are saying. The sealed affidavit was under the control of
the Haut family, and Carey and Schmitt could not use it without
their permission.

>Obviously, placing Ramey in Roswell on the 8th is monumental,
>and most certainly needs to be looked into, again.

We've had other testimony about Ramey being at the base, but
nothing specifically placing him at the morning meeting on July
8. (Except maybe from Frank Kaufmann) Under the circumstances,
however, this wouldn't be very surprising.

>Finally, for clarity, I don't question the fact that an
>extraterrestrial craft/s was recovered, i.e., the Roswell
>Incident, or the post cover-up; I question Walter's involvement
>regarding his seeing wreckage himself, and or bodies;
>furthermore, given his own contradictory statements regarding
>his actually seeing wreckage and or bodies, in my view, the
>affidavit that is now on the table doesn't carry much weight.

Haut had a top secret clearance, had dropped instruments into
the A-bomb tests at Bikini, was PIO to the atomic bomber base
and thus often privy to sensitive information concerning
operations there, took big wigs on tours of the base, etc.
However, most importantly, Haut was probably Colonel Blanchard's
closest friend, so I don't find it all that curious that
Blanchard would allow him to have a look.

As for Haut's contradictory statements, that is how I figured
most people would choose to dismiss his affidavit. However, as I
tried to point out in my discussion of Haut's affidavit on my
website, there are very understandable reasons for Haut to
publicly deny direct involvement while he was alive. I've also
tried to point out (such as in my recent review of the
Carey/Schmitt book) that Haut's affidavit doesn't stand alone,
but has a lot of corroborating testimony from others.

Haut also wasn't alone in not going public while alive. E.g.,
provost marshall Edwin Easley also said he had sworn an oath and
wouldn't talk about it, but dropped a lot of hints nonetheless
to something extraordinary happening. When Kevin Randle asked
him if a spacecraft crash was the right path to follow, Easley
replied to the effect, "Well let's put it this way. It's not the
wrong path." Easley also confessed to holding Mack Brazel at the
base under armed guard. And we have witnesses to Easley
directing the MPs out at the crash sites. It's not too hard to
read between the lines here.

Colonel Blanchard's adjutant, Patrick Saunders also refused to
say much, but inscribed copies of the Randle/Schmitt "The Truth
About the UFO Crash at Roswell" book with, "This is the truth,
and I still haven't told anyone!" The section he inscribed with
this statement concerned how the paper trail was covered up. One
of Saunders children wrote a letter saying how he had bragged
about how well he had covered everything up. When I asked Walter
Haut about procedure concerning important press releases, he
told me Blanchard and/or Saunders would always review such
releases before they went out. (Thus Haut couldn't act alone
without severe repercussions)

The only thing different about Haut from Easley or Saunders is
he decided to leave a detailed oral and written testimonial to
be made public after his death instead of taking his secrets to
the grave.

David Rudiak

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