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Re: 'Out of the Blue' Do Aliens Exist? - Sparks

From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:41:32 EDT
Archived: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:19:34 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Out of the Blue' Do Aliens Exist? - Sparks

>From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:31:21 -0700
>Subject: Re: 'Out of the Blue' Do Aliens Exist?


>Perhaps Aldrin and crew saw the equivalent of an unidentified
>aerospace phenomenon of some kind, or a 'UFO', or a panel from
>the LEM container (which, as Aldrin has said, was at least 6000
>miles away, as reported by NASA ground communicators after a
>pause for calculation when Aldrin slyly asked how close the
>nearest ejected LEM panel was after he and Armstrong saw the
>odd, thickish L-shaped object tracking with them for some time.

I have already found the probable explanation, which was Apollo
11 astronaut Michael Collins' explanation given in debriefing.
If you will look up UFO UpDates archives from March of this



It was the third stage of the saturn rocket, the S-IVB, that was
supposed to be about 6,000 miles away not the LM panels, called
Spacecraft Lunar Adapter (SLA) panels. Calculating the distances
to the four panels is very difficult (read my postings). They were
probably several hundred miles away. However the Apollo 11 had
two major rocket firings, the separation maneuver and the mid-
course correction, which would have sent the Apollo in roughly
the direction of one of these ejected panels. Thus the Apollo
might have been a lot closer to one SLA panel than one might
have guessed.

However, Collin's explanation that it was a piece of metallized
Mylar that had come off, seems to fit best. As I reconstructed
the situation the Apollo's attitude control rockets had misfired
for about 2 hours and must have dislodged a piece of Mylar
thermal covering. The last blast of the RCS jets at about 8:40
PM must have sent the Mylar flying.

About 20 minutes later the Mylar piece would have traveled to a
position where the astronauts could see it. They watched it for
about 1-1/2 hours until their delayed sleep time and they never
saw it again. That fits the dynamic profile of a small piece of
Mylar (say 2 ft) sent off at about 1 mph. In about 20 minutes it
would be about a third of a mile away and about 1/8 Full Moon in
size, thus larger than a mere pinpoint. As the Mylar rotated
various shapes would be seen. If part of it had been wrapped
around a LM leg it might look cylindrical while the other end
might have a sharp crease, looking L-shaped or "open book"
shaped. The astronauts strongly disagreed with each other in
debriefing because each saw a different part of the elephant so
to speak (like the blindmen arguing) and saw a different shape.

After 1-1/2 more hours still drifting away at say 1 mph the
Mylar would have reached a distance of almost 2 miles and would
now be too small to see and that is about when the Apollo crew
went to sleep. They could not see the Mylar again after that
point, and indeed the object was never seen again, it was all
seen before the sleep period.

>Anyone know better details or how this question might otherwise
>be answered out there?

Yes see above.

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